Would like to get everyone's opinion on Suarez' ban. How do you feel about it. Warranted? Justified? Correct? Incorrect? Ridiculous?
However you feel about it, I would like this thread to be one in which you can express your thoughts about Suarez and the ban he has received today, without any redress. That is - express your own opinion, and your own opinion only. A post your own opinion only thread so to speak. No responding to the opinions of others, no engaging in any debate with others - just merely a platform for you to express your opinion without worrying about any redress.
I'll start. I think the punishment is incredibly harsh. To be banned from all football related activities is taking it a step too far. Ban him from competitive football for a certain length of time, but don't stop him from being able to interact, train with, communicate with, and form an understanding with colleagues. Maybe don't include friendlies, so that once the ban is served, Suarez is not only free to take to the field in competitive first team action, but ready and fit enough to take to the field straight away.
I can understand the Liverpool fans frustrations in regards to Liverpool being punished (by not being able to play their best player even though the incident occurred during a game that had nothing to do with Liverpool). So for this reason I feel the burden of punishment should have affected Uruguay more (and Suarez' International career more) than it should affect Liverpool. But purely in terms of number of games missed, Liverpool will suffer more than Uruguay will. That I feel, is unfair.
Anyway, that's my opinion. Don't respond to my opinion - just state your own. Let's get a thread going where people can state their own opinions on the matter once and for all. This thread is just about your own opinion. Not about your reaction to someone else's opinion.
Admin, if you could multiboard this, then thank you
Suarez's ban
posted on 27/6/14
I don't think he;s capable of stoppping and I think he does care. He's just got unshakeable impulse issues
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Eh ?? What a load of codswallop.
posted on 27/6/14
The other thing I would say is that the exposure that this got due to it being at their flagship event and watched by that many people would have also had an effect coupled it with being a repeated offence.
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Absolutely. But then does that not show just how futile the whole "punishment" process can be?
How much of this is down to the idea that FIFA had to be seen to do something? To put this "bad boy to bed once and for all" so to speak?
A head-butt in the chest warrants a 3-game ban for a player who had already announced his retirement (thus rendering that punishment completely redundant). Or to swing to the other end of the pendulum, why not just ban Suarez completely - a repeat offender no less. He either brings shame on the game or he does not. If he does, and does so again and again, then throw him out of the game completely. There is no shortage of others willing to take his space. The game won't die if such an extreme example is made of one, individual player, no matter how good he is.
This punishment is middle of the road - seen to be doing something while not actually doing anything at all - the mantra that FIFA (and UEFA) are all too good at. And while they mess around, the wrong people end up being the one's affected. Liverpool fans (who are only guilty of doing the thing that us fans do all the time (that is, support our own - that is support - as in not being fickle, as in staying with them until the very end (you know, that kind of romantic stuff).
And yet it is Liverpool who will suffer more than most. It is Suarez' fault - the guy is an idiot - a hypocritical idiot at that. Liverpool - the club and the fans - their only crime is to be taken in by him because he such a good player.
posted on 27/6/14
What are you failing to understand about that sentence Superb?
posted on 27/6/14
comment by Pâî§Lë¥'&scaron... (U1541)
posted 36 seconds ago
What are you failing to understand about that sentence Superb?
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Everything. Please explain it to me if you understand it so well.
Trying to claim that Suarez is not in control of his actions for momentary lapses of time is no excuse.
If that really is the case then he has no place on a football pitch as a professional player as he is clearly a danger to the health and safety of other players.
posted on 27/6/14
He does impulsively stupid and reckless things. I suppose it's equatable to eye gouging a rivals eyeballs or pulling a 12 year olds ears.
posted on 27/6/14
I think one more occurence and he is out of the game completely to be honest Ripley.
Your are right that it is Liverpool fans and the club that will suffer - the exact same as we suffered through the actions of Tevez and United fans suffered through the actions of Cantona. As fans, we will always get taken in by the brilliance of players. Talent and emotion should not detract from the punishment if they do something wrong though.
It was not going to be a lighter punishment given it was the third time and if it was a more extreme ban, then that would have been even worse as he would have had to have been written off completely as an asset.
It hurts the player, it hurts his national team and it hurts his club team. All of them have shared accountability in his actions though through him working for all of them concurrently. To use a crude analogy, take a lorry driver that works for a company that delivers goods for a retailer. If he has a few drinks and gets caught, then he suffers through losing his licence, the retailer suffers through having a load of stock stuck in the middle of nowhere and the company suffer through being a driver down and potentially being sued by the retailer. Its the same thing, all are still culpable
Given its the third time, I'm not really sure what else FIFA could have done to be honest (and I am incredibly critical of them!).
posted on 27/6/14
RipleysCat, my own view is that he got off lightly. I anticipated a far longer international ban.
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posted on 27/6/14
I was shocked and could not believe when I heard that Suarez had done it again.
He has been punished, I would have thought maybe more.
I have seen people think that the punishment may be reduced on appeal, have they not considered that there might be an increase in the punishment, as sometimes happens.
Uruguayan FA havn't really got a case in my opinion, he did it, he's done it twice before, so what if it's the first time he has done it playing for Uruguay.
As for Liverpool, it's tough but what redress do you have. You knew what he was like and you have supported him through his fine season, but don't forget he started the season with a ban for biting, you had the chance to get rid last summer, but decided to try and rehabilitate him. They were doing pretty well but he has reverted to type and you can't seriously have a case.