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How many players left AFC to win trophies?

Does anyone have any idea about this?

Obviously Nasri and RVP spring to mind. Surely there must be one or two more.

comment by wump (U5046)

posted on 4/8/14

Oh my Arsene must have really gotten under your skin for you to lash out like this? Must have really started the week in a bad move poor fella

posted on 4/8/14

I thought melton was arguably the only sane City fan?

It seems RipleysCat is another.

PS

X seesaws between normalcy and insanity.

comment by X (U4074)

posted on 5/8/14

I've been travelling between Eastern European and Far East time zones recently which can deeply affect my mood on here; I'll be the first to admit I sometimes overreact or jump the gun.
That said we were on the same page the other day, with concern to the Kelechi issue, where many others would have considered us both insane... my point is, understanding a different reality is often mistaken for insanity.

Although back to the thread:
If we accept that Nasri left for trophies, then the same applies to Clichy.

I think even though Arsenal had recently been successful, we all knew which way the wind was blowing, so it is only fair to suggest Ashley Cole was motivated at least in part by potential silverware.

Also I think we should consider Cole's recent behaviour; it is unlikely that Roma offered him the most lucrative contract.
Ergo one can assume that money is not his number one priority now, and this informs us somewhat on his decision to join Chelsea x

posted on 5/8/14

RVP and Nasri are the only real examples that serve to illustrate the point being made. And both succeeded, thus justifying the reasons for their move. Of course, both players were offered better contracts, so winning trophies wasn't the only motivation. But then it never is the only motivation. If that was the case, that is, being at a "better" club (as in currently being better league wise) then PL clubs should really be paying lower wages for players than they previously earned at their previous club. But like every other walk of life, that is not the case. You better yourself, both in terms of company, role within said company, and salary.
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Obviously, the ego is hurt when a talented player leaves the club. I don't know what went on behind the scenes at Arsenal, but I'm sure all the players that left Arsenal had a good reason for doing so. Barcelona, City and United have all been far more competitive than Arsenal have in the last (let's say) five years.

To be honest, looking at things as an adult, I can't blame players for moving to a job with better prospects. Like you stated, if you were offered a job with better prospects than your current one, you wouldn't think twice about taking it. I think that, that is the way that some sports need to be looked at.

posted on 5/8/14

I think even though Arsenal had recently been successful, we all knew which way the wind was blowing, so it is only fair to suggest Ashley Cole was motivated at least in part by potential silverware.
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In hindsight, he made the correct decision, but it has been pretty well publicised that he wasn't happy with the contract that Arsenal offered him. Besides, there was nothing to suggest at the time that Arsenal were going to drop off, and that Chelsea were set for a sustained period at the top of the game. The game moved/moves so quickly.

comment by X (U4074)

posted on 5/8/14

Chelsea had just won back-to-back titles, with Arsenal finishing 24 points behind.
No that is not a suggestion of dropping off, it IS dropping off x

posted on 5/8/14

I am suspicious of the sincerity of this article as the information is readily available.

The above aside once AFC elected to embark on the Emirates project fans realised, (despite the rhetoric advocated by the club) that resource would be tight, and the squad would suffer as a result.

The stadium venture happened to coincide with Sheikh Mansour’s purchase of City and the implementation of FFP. Due to the financial restrictions imposed on the club to build the Emirates, sacrifices had to be made, and some players chose to leave to seek silverware elsewhere.

It is difficult to criticise all of the players that left. A footballer’s career is short. If an opportunity came to pass to double your salary, with the added chance of silverware, there are not many who would avail of it.

Arsenal are now emerging from this period of transformation, and thanks to the financial frugality of the club over the last decade, we are now in a healthier and stronger position for the future.

posted on 5/8/14

TRC,

Are you saying it's arguable I'm sane there...?

posted on 5/8/14

comment by ||The Great AFL©||™ (U11952)
posted 18 hours, 42 minutes ago
Although this is a clear attempt at a wind up, I will respond.

I would argue that the first few players to leave didn't actually leave for trophies. When Cole left, Arsenal had just come off the back of an successful period. Adebayor and Toure joined City when City hadn't won a trophy in quite a while, had finished behind Arsenal and were only an upcoming force at that time.
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Ade and Toure obviously saw the potential for winning something at City was greater as opposed to nothing at Arsenal no matter how you try to dress it up!

posted on 5/8/14

I was interested in the players that hadn't won anything at all with Arsenal, then moved and won something.

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