Wrong decision on Rooney??

I personally see the signing of falcao at the figures quoted and rvp by saf as a sign that Rooney isn't trusted enough despite his record.

You cant knock past Rooney but now Rooney isn't consistently moving and finding space and its affecting the team.

He has always had dips but not like the current.

As a MF sorry but we may as well keep clevz

1982, there isn't anything like Roy Keane (or Gattuso), very true. The best we can hope for is the "next best thing". They don't make 'em like Keano anymore. But Rooney IMO, is about the next best thing.

I would say Rooney is a good player and that's about it. Yes, he scores goals and has the odd moment of brilliance but nothing to suggest that he's a top player let alone being called a world class. He's not even in the top 30 forwards/attacking players in the world. I agree with MUDD that other aspects of his game are nothing to write home about. As a United fan I expect a lot more from a senior member of the squad and I hope he turns up. Good player but bang average striker.

I can't see Rooney as a striker for many more years, I think Louie will make a strong midfielder out of him, as long as he doesn't become petulant. This won't be for 2-3 years IMO...remember how well Scholes converted, although it can be argued he was never an all-out striker, but it's a similar move.

Ouch^^^ hard assessment on wazza. Maybe a bit harsh, but I do agree he's put on a pedestal on which he does not (quite) belong. He's not fit to be considered at the very top table, not to far away though.

Right let me start with jones beig captain- he shouldn't even be playing, let alone captain. Terrible player and not captain material.

As for Rooney, bit more complex. Rooney on the surface was the only one in many people's view to take the captaincy, and whilst their views are valid I think there are just as many pros to cons for Rooney.

Pros being he is most experienced player in the squad and the longest serving first team member (I know fletch has been technically a year longer at the clubs first team but let's face it rooneys when fit has played 98% of games avialible, fletch has spent a lot of time hovering around the squad, the situations are not the same. He also has been one of our most important players in the last decade. Probably te most important in t eh current squad given all the departures. And he obviously commands a great deal of respect from other players. Also given the players we have, barring rvp who was captain at arsenal we didn't have any other legit captain choices.

Cons

It now does mean that he is undroppable, realistically how often does a captain get dropped for a sustainable period. I've said since falcao signed that for the sake of balance I want us to revert to 433 or some variation and see mata played off falcao, at least for a little whole, this means benching Rooney and rvp and unfortunately we can't do that.

No striker in my book should be a captain, very hard lead from the front.

Rooney is in general not captain material either, even if he wasn't a striker.

Was it wrong to give the captains armband to him? Yes and no. We really don't have anyone else. But it does mean he now has to be accomdated regardless of form. It's a case of wait and see.

Hopefully a real leader for this team will either emerge from the players we've bought or will bring one in soon because in my opinion we've sorely lacked someone like that, especially in the centre since we lost keane although both rio and vidic and paddy were all fairly good in that sense, none of them put boots to asssed quite like Roy.

Well see with Rooney I suppose, te best we can hope for is that he recaptures his old form.

Stretty

If you hadn't out the jones thing at the beginning, I would not have believed that was you because the rest was very good

comment by Dichinero - The era of the Van Gaalaticos! (U10875)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
I would say Rooney is a good player and that's about it. Yes, he scores goals and has the odd moment of brilliance but nothing to suggest that he's a top player let alone being called a world class. He's not even in the top 30 forwards/attacking players in the world. I agree with MUDD that other aspects of his game are nothing to write home about. As a United fan I expect a lot more from a senior member of the squad and I hope he turns up. Good player but bang average striker.
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He plays like he knows he will get smashed to pieces if he makes one mistake. It's like he's playing footie in a firing range

A scouse mate of mine reckons he needs taking out of the firing line for a bit

This is not a fitness issue, he's looking lean, nor is it he's on the downgrade issue either. He's 28 not 35.

The problems are in his head. He isn't playing free or without fear. He's playing like a scared cat

The media won't stop until they have hounded him out of the international set up. Nobody would complain if he did. Well, I'm sure some would use it as another excuse to Trash him, but Rooney won't. You can tell how proud he is playing for his country, it oozes out of him

Trouble is, the country won't allow him to relax and enjoy his new captaincy and his role playing for England. The more chit they heap on him, the better. Let's run a poll asking the country if he should be dropped 5 minutes after his first game as international captain. I mean, seriously? Think about just what a ludicrous suggestion that really is for a minute

They won't stop until they get him. Then they will move onto their next target if the national team does carry on as it is. Wilshere looks favourite and after that, probably sterling.

If I saw wazza tonight, I'd say to him fak em. Concentrate on United. Let them find another hate figure to target to make up for the fact it isn't them that went from the streets of Croccy to becoming one of the most recognisable sportsman on the planet

Maybe then, he might just stop playing with the world on his shoulders

Won't happen though because he isn't a quiter, and he keeps getting picked

People don't seem to appreciate that there was a lot more to Roy Keane than just a snarl. He was simply a world class midfielder. Being a bit of a psycho gave him an edge but it is not what made him the player he was. Roo has none of Keane's attributes as a central midfielder whatsoever. His best position is as a striker and it has been for at least five years.

comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 34 seconds ago
People don't seem to appreciate that there was a lot more to Roy Keane than just a snarl. He was simply a world class midfielder. Being a bit of a psycho gave him an edge but it is not what made him the player he was.
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yes it was actually

United were getting pizzed off about the amount of yellow cards he was getting and it was, I think, Brian Kidd that told him that the club was fed up with the bans he was receiving

So Keano cleaned up his act somewhat

Not long after, Kidd told him to go back to playing how he used to, the club would rather put up with the bans

Keane was WC, and part of that was because of the aggressive way he played.