There has been quite a lot of articles and posts giving the guy plenty of flak recently and suggesting he get dropped. Words like "terrible", "cack", "crap" etc have been used to describe his performances this season. Of course, I think this is nonsense but I decided to employ the statistical route to compare Ramsey's performances to other central midfielders in the league - the likes of Yaya, Oscar, Gerrard, Henderson etc. http://www.liverpoolfc.com/statistics/player-comparison
Compared with Yaya for example (who has played 1 less game):
Goals: 2-0
Assists:1-0
Chances created: 9-1
Fouls Won: 6-2
Fouls Conceded:3-9 (clumsy Yaya)
Tackles won: 10-1
Tackles won percentage: 83.3%-50%
Interceptions: 7-0
Clearances: 4-1
Duels Won: 23-7
Duels Won percentage: 40.4%-25%
Aerial Duels won: 4-1
Passes: 358-279
Passing accuracy: 86.3%-91%
In that little blur of stats, basically Ramsey has FAR excelled the best CM in the league both offensively and defensively, other than being a slightly less accurate passer (probably because his passing has been too ambitious). I observed the same trend comparing him to other top central midfielders in the league. Sometimes, our fans lose all sense of perspective in criticism. Everything is black or white, world class or terrible, with no grey area inbetween. I had a whine about the same thing when people were giving Wilshere stick earlier in the season despite him doing little wrong.
Ramsey hasn't started at his very best but he, unlike a certain struggling languid German in our team, he works his socks off and keeps TRYING and never hides. Those suggesting he be dropped to accomodate Ozil as a no.10 are fecking high. Please keep a sense of perspective. Ramsey hasn't started like Cesc in Chelsea but he's still easily among the very best this league has to offer. Don't lose sight of that because of your frustrations.
Ramsey
posted on 14/9/14
I don't understand the Ox love-in either. I'm not impressed with him in the slightest, He hasn't developed enough in his time here and I don't trust him to start. Even as a sub, he's usually quiet.
posted on 14/9/14
Sheriff, want to say sorry for your comment?
posted on 14/9/14
comment by Alexis - S.W.A.G (Sanogo, Welbz and Giroud) (U6685)
posted 32 seconds ago
Wilshere and Ramsey will be a disaster together. There's got to be rotation.
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In theory it shouldn't be. One goes while the other stays. Who would have thought that Arteta (the man bought to replace Cesc) would end up as a reasonable holding player? (while he had some legs).
In a way Wenger is getting them used to it now albeit from a slightly further starting position. Ideally their starting position would just drop a few yards and they would have to better time their runs.
But as I said that exposes the full backs more than a proper holding midfield would. As you could see yesterday, that Alexis gets through a lot of defensive work and Theo is used to that as well with Sagna getting forward. It should work....in theory.
But I think thats the only explanation for going 4-1-4-1 as we have now with Ramsey/Wilshere center pairing.
posted on 14/9/14
Sheriff, want to say sorry for your comment?
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What comment? Comment about Giroud?
posted on 14/9/14
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Alexis - S.W.A.G (Sanogo, Welbz and Giroud) (U6685)
posted 32 seconds ago
Wilshere and Ramsey will be a disaster together. There's got to be rotation.
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In theory it shouldn't be. One goes while the other stays. Who would have thought that Arteta (the man bought to replace Cesc) would end up as a reasonable holding player? (while he had some legs).
In a way Wenger is getting them used to it now albeit from a slightly further starting position. Ideally their starting position would just drop a few yards and they would have to better time their runs.
But as I said that exposes the full backs more than a proper holding midfield would. As you could see yesterday, that Alexis gets through a lot of defensive work and Theo is used to that as well with Sagna getting forward. It should work....in theory.
But I think thats the only explanation for going 4-1-4-1 as we have now with Ramsey/Wilshere center pairing.
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Wilshere is not good enough defensively imo, Ramsey is. However converting Ramsey into an out and out defensive mid is a waste of his attacking capabilities.
Neither of them has the height or physical presence.
posted on 14/9/14
Ramsey and Wilshere should never start together
We're best when we have one DM - One box to box and One No.10.
Till Wenger realizes this, bites the bullet and drops one of his favourite sons we'll continue to struggle
posted on 14/9/14
converting Ramsey into an out and out defensive mid is a waste of his attacking capabilities.
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Why would we have an out and out DM?
posted on 14/9/14
Wilshere is not good enough defensively imo, Ramsey is. However converting Ramsey into an out and out defensive mid is a waste of his attacking capabilities.
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Trust me Wenger is loathed to categorise players in positions. He honestly believes in total football and complete midfield players. Wilshere and Ramsey will have to both defend and attack.
Wenger holds Wilshere in very high regard and before his injury Wilshere was getting through a lot of defensive work with Song. Both Woy and Wenger think he can do it. Woy was labelling Wilshere a holding player and I think that would be waste of his talent. Its about being able to defend and attack equally well. And if Wilshere stars scoring goals I think he and Ramsey will be a devastating combination.
I think it obvious that Wenger plans to use Ozil in the middle. Otherwise he wouldn't have been telling Cesc that in his reasoning for not signing him.
posted on 14/9/14
comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 25 minutes ago
Sheriff, want to say sorry for your comment?
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What comment? Comment about Giroud?
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Your comment in general. What has OG to do with it anyway?
posted on 14/9/14
Ramsey has been good aside from one glaring thing. Misplacing/mishitting passes and shots. It does seem as though he's gotten a bit carried away with how good he knows he can be now and he's trying too much. But he's a hard-working level-headed guy, I'm backing him to step up in the near future. If he's still acquiring these stats and getting goals when he's in poor form think how good he's gonna be when he returns to form.