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The reason you lost ...

Nothing to do with the Ref. Yes – he had a mare for the first penalty. Vardy fouled Rafael outside the box before Rafael returned the compliment, but are you really saying your half a billion pound team couldn’t cope with a bad decision which still left you 3-2 up?
Clattenberg also missed a clear United handball in the box, gave United a corner that never was and the linesman incorrectly judged Nugent offside when clean though after a Vardy headed knock-down. The Ref may have had a mare but he appeared equally incompetent for both sides.
The reason you lost?
When we were two goals down (TWICE) we kept battling away and never stopped pressing forward to get back in the game.
When you went two goals down (with 13 minutes of time left including 6 minutes injury time) you GAVE UP. That’s what you lot should be moaning about.

posted on 22/9/14

^

Anyone understand that?

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posted on 22/9/14

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posted on 22/9/14

To be fair RAP, in this one, he's right.

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I second that. Winston is speaking factually in this thread. Others are going off preconceptions, which are incorrect. And for that reason, Rap - you're attacking the wrong person here.

What Keane did wasn't good - we all know and accept that, and for that reason it should be (and has been) criticised. But let's not turn the Keane-Haaland incident into something that it simply is not.

posted on 23/9/14

On the plastic fans point - how old are you?

I don't mean that as an insult, just wondered if you're of the age to have children.

Let's see how you cope when you have kids and a mortgage, if your monthly budget is tight.

I'm 38, have two children and went to my first game in 1980, missing only three home games up until the age of 17, when I started playing senior football. I've been to over 1000 games but live in Australia now so obviously don't get to many anymore.

I've put in the hard yards over the last 34 years (when I was single and didn't have children) so I can happily consider myself to be a proper fan.

We all know about economic restraints and for those that used to go but can't anymore that's fair enough, I have no issue with that.

However, those that have never been to games don't understand because the passion inside and outside a stadium is totally different. Until a fan has experienced that regularly, they're a plastic as far as I'm concerned.

How that clarifies it 👍

posted on 23/9/14

^ hope that clarifies it.

And yes Keane did admit that he wanted to hurt him so I don't think there's really much argument to be fair.

posted on 23/9/14

RipleysCat (U1862)

That person is filtered - I assume it's yet another abusive, off topic post from that small group of Liverpool fans.

But of course, it'll all be my fault that they choose to behave like that.

Who else's fault could it be?

posted on 23/9/14

arrothefoxinoz (U8567)

I think you can give greater credit to the fans that do make the effort, and I think you can give their opinions greater respect.

But personally, I'm not in the habit of insulting people just because they don't go to games.

People are entitled to support who they like, and in the days of televised football, it's natural that some people will follow a side but not go to games, for whatever reason.

posted on 23/9/14

"And yes Keane did admit that he wanted to hurt him so I don't think there's really much argument to be fair"

First of all, you claimed Keane broke Haaland's leg. You were wrong.

Then, you claimed Keane ended Haaland's career. You were wrong.

You have also claimed Keane destroyed Haaland's knee ligaments. You were wrong.

If you had have claimed that Keane admitted that he wanted to hurt Haaland, then I'd have agreed with you.

But that's not what you said - so it's no use trying to change it now. It's all there in black and white - perhaps you should just have accepted your error and moved on.

posted on 23/9/14

I was wrong about him breaking his leg as I've already acknowledged but I'm not buying that he didn't end his career and that challenge would not have done his ligaments any good whatsoever so as far as I'm concerned he ended his career.

You're entitled to your opinion of course and I respect it but I won't be swayed from mine.

I give full credit to anyone that goes to games whoever they support 👍

posted on 23/9/14

"but I'm not buying that he didn't end his career"

I'm afraid you can't hide behind your opinion here.

If I said that in my opinion, the earth is flat, would you accept it?

He played twice in seven days and retired due to an injury in his other knee.

That fundamentally proves you wrong.

The fact that you won't admit it is really quite embarrassing.

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