hi guys
We all have our own opinions concerning sunday"s unfortunate incident and from my own point of view i personally think there was a mistake made by having heavy machinery trackside in such treacherous conditions not to mention the standing water that was around without a safety car present , if the track was dry maybe not a problem but in sundays conditions ??
however i dont think it is fair to apportion blame as everybody was only doing what they thought was correct at the time and maybe it was just a simple lack of communication that was to blame for the events that unfolded
however prost is a little more condemning in his views and it has to be said it is very hard to argue against alain --
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/df608?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=formula-1
does le professeur have a point ?
posted on 7/10/14
Driver safety is paramount hence the development of the 'carbon cocoon', run off areas and safety in general.
A few years ago a very good friend was out for a drink. She left the table to 'powder her nose', tripped over a chair and fell on a table. She landed on a tall glass that severed the main artery in her left arm. 5mins later she as gone. Sally bled to death despite our best efforts.
Things happen in life that you can never 'allow for' so stop trying bud.
All the best to Bianchi
posted on 7/10/14
comment by TUX (U5315)
posted 2 minutes ago
Driver safety is paramount hence the development of the 'carbon cocoon', run off areas and safety in general.
A few years ago a very good friend was out for a drink. She left the table to 'powder her nose', tripped over a chair and fell on a table. She landed on a tall glass that severed the main artery in her left arm. 5mins later she as gone. Sally bled to death despite our best efforts.
Things happen in life that you can never 'allow for' so stop trying bud.
All the best to Bianchi
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here what you are saying tux but i cant agree with you mate -- i just find it impossible to be that blas'e where driver and marshal safety are concerned --
posted on 7/10/14
Blas'e or real?
It seems you can't tell the difference.
And thanks for your thoughts about Sally. Kinda sums you up.N nite
posted on 7/10/14
comment by TUX (U5315)
posted 14 minutes ago
Blas'e or real?
It seems you can't tell the difference.
And thanks for your thoughts about Sally. Kinda sums you up.N nite
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come on now tux -- nobody in there right mind ever wants to see a repeat of what happened to JB to any other driver --
posted on 8/10/14
There has been no official statement of aquaplaning in either of the accidents, loss of grip yes but full aquaplaning to my knowledge has not yet been mentioned.
It's just a word people will use to sensationalise these things. To be fair as tragic as the situation is this happens in motorsport all the time just not as often as in the very high profile world of F1.
posted on 8/10/14
Everyone's playing the blame game here and that is counter-productive. In racing as in every job, there are risks and all you can do is reduce them to as low as reasonably possible.
Thankfully Jules is alive and I hope he recovers from the incident but a lot of people are playing the blame game without having all the facts.
posted on 8/10/14
Sorry Martial you are right Sutil does use the term aquaplaning the only reason I rasied it was that is a term often used by the media to sensationalise these situations. Also a number of drivers stated that there was very little standing water.
That said it doesn't take a huge amount to lose grip especially with wets or intermediates as the additional height reduces the ground effect of the downforce these cars rely on.
posted on 8/10/14
TBH, not many have mentioned grass. Grass is ferociously slippy and does nothing to halt speed. Tracks should be surrounded by gravel, for variouos reasons, but the 2 most important for me, its good for halting speed, and it punishes poor drivers who use run off areas as track
posted on 8/10/14
comment by BWFCCLEGG (U7583)
posted 4 minutes ago
TBH, not many have mentioned grass. Grass is ferociously slippy and does nothing to halt speed. Tracks should be surrounded by gravel, for variouos reasons, but the 2 most important for me, its good for halting speed, and it punishes poor drivers who use run off areas as track
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Another great idea. I talked about having cranes behind the barriers with the right booms to lift beached cars as well.
Not sure Seb would like the gravel idea though
posted on 9/10/14
They'd need really long booms to reach into some of those gravel traps. The problem with gravel is it can cause cars to flip, when it digs in at high speed.