CSKA v City

Reckon you are out already. If you had beaten moscow home and away you wouldn't have to beat either roma or bayern

I doubt it considering the amount Roma beat CSKA by.

Bayern currently doing there bit for us, second place is still very much up for grabs.

Is everyone assuming Roma will go to Moscow and win as well...?

Let them have their day in the sun. The only cup game United have played this season with their £500m squad and their £350k a week players was against MK Dons.

A draw in Moscow is something well beyond their present dreams.

Roma will beat CSKA away. You messed it up, and you have a huge challenge to qualify now. Bayern are a foregone conclusion and will top the group. With the players you have, you should really be as good as they are.

Let's wait and see then.

And Bayern are streets ahead of any English team.

And Bayern are streets ahead of any English team.
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They are better, but I wouldn't say "streets ahead". If they play that tiki-taka Barca-borrowed bullcrap against Chelsea, they may not enjoy the encounter. If you were a bit more tactically flexible, you have the quality and depth to cause them serious problems.

With Bayern winning today it's opened the group up. Bayern will certainly beat Roma at home. I doubt it will be a hammering like today though. City will beat Moscow at home. Bayern will then have qualified and already secured top spot so when they play City they will rest a few players and not be majorly bothered about the result which would make things a little easier for City, if City were to beat Bayern and Roma beat Moscow it would all go to the last game with City needing a draw to qualify.