(Sorry, this isn't on the United board for a particular reason, other than its a big board that is active).
Does experience actually count for much in football? I know this sounds a little bit weird in your heads potentially but I only think it counts for very little things in football really, as crazy as it might sound.
I think experience only counts for big games or cup finals. That may sound like a huge matter, but is it? Lets say for example Gerrard is 38 ears old playing for Liverpool (bit of a coincidence this is on the United board ), his experience would be useful in the dressing room for sure, but do you need it on the field of play realistically? I don't think you do tbh. Gerrard is the character with experience that can offer some advice from these types of games he has played in and although players might find this useful, its not the experience that wins you a cup final, its your passion, desire and quality for me.
If we always went by the saying, "he doesn't have enough experience to play for us yet", then this 'player' would never be played. Simply because he doesn't have the experience to play for you as he has never played for your club before. If that makes sense. The only way you gain experience is by playing for your current club, that is how good young players come through (Rooney, Kane and Sterling' are good examples of this idea). I think there are many more important things than experience in this game personally, that's why I'm asking jus a general question.
Is experience really tat important in modern day football?
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posted on 30/1/15
Elvis
Jones eventually came on to replace him. Jones had been doing a pretty good job of DM at the time when called upon.
When we went two up for the first time I said to my Mrs that Scholes was knackered and Jones needed to come on and shore up the midfield.
One of those very rare occasions I hated being right.
posted on 30/1/15
Perfect example of that two edged sword you speak of, VC.
Scholes coming out of retirement helped us get into the position to win the title.
Him not being taken off could very well be the main reason we didn't win it in the end.
posted on 30/1/15
Young players will say it can be useful off the scenes and on the training pitch, but, I don't think it is that big of a deal. Young players should be told off their managers about composure, decision making etc. That should be one of his prime jobs.
posted on 30/1/15
Indeed Dazza.
I think it also peed Pogba off.
posted on 30/1/15
Composure and decision making usually comes with experience in situation needed rather than all from the manager.
There's only so much a manager can do. The player has as big a role in his own development in those aspects.
Fergie coached Rooney and Ronaldo and their composure and decision making improved with experience.
Nani was coached by him as well and that didn't improve with experience, though. Neither did Welbeck really.
So the player has to take that experience of in game situations and improve it themselves. It's a mental aspect that is particular to the individual. Some have some don't.
posted on 30/1/15
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
Composure and decision making usually comes with experience in situation needed rather than all from the manager.
There's only so much a manager can do. The player has as big a role in his own development in those aspects.
Fergie coached Rooney and Ronaldo and their composure and decision making improved with experience.
Nani was coached by him as well and that didn't improve with experience, though. Neither did Welbeck really.
So the player has to take that experience of in game situations and improve it themselves. It's a mental aspect that is particular to the individual. Some have some don't.
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All a manager needs to say to a player is: "just keep your composure in your game, on and off the ball and make the decisions that will benefit the team." Players aren't stupid, they will know what that means. Youngsters need encouraging more than having an experienced word in their ear.
Rooney will have been tutored by RVN maybe, but do you think that made him into the player he now is? The same case with Ronaldo, possibly tutored by Giggs, but did that make him the player he is now? Rooney and Ronaldo had little experience at United, but they flourished, nothing to do with experience.
Were they given enough game time? Were they given the sufficient attention they needed? They are still unanswered questions we will never know most likely, so that's just an assumption.
The only experience players get is through mistakes. If they make a mistake, youngsters will need their manager to raise their confidence levels and make sure they learn from that mistake. That's the biggest part experience plays in a footballers career imo.
posted on 30/1/15
But that is where good management comes in, knowing the balance and when to use experience and when not to.
It's a great tool but has to be used wisely.
posted on 30/1/15
It doesn't have to be used wisely. It needs to be used every time it is needed, that way players get the same treatment.
posted on 30/1/15
Using it wisely is the same as using it when it is needed.
Do you understand what the word wise means?
posted on 30/1/15
Yes but using it wisely can be out into different contexts. Using it wisely sounds like it is a privilege and it can't just be thrown around to everybody you like. That's how I interpreted it, so apologies if I got that one wrong.