Momentum and TB got us there

It's rumoured that Mills in particular may follow Freedman to Forest. They're welcome to him.

Interesting Dunge -because I was told- by someone who is usually reliable - that Wes had been sounded out the possibility of being allowed to finish up at Forest......

He is still a complete legend there of course and is seen as perhaps the man to re-invigorate the club and supporters at a crucial stage

With him being our club captain and so highly respected at KP by everyone it seems unlikely ........but the possibility of getting his home club promoted must somehow appeal- so who knows

By the way Joby - I think you are missing the point regarding Beckford especially and his isolation period at Leicester -similar in many ways to Albrighton.
At a critical period of getting eight points from 15 games and not getting goals he was ignored and then sent to Huddersfield.

Mark Robins told me directly that his goals there -getting winner in three of run in matches - had saved them from relegation and whilst frustrating he was critical for them.

He is still doing it at Preston - did anyone see hios two goals last week in play off semis..

So the criticism was that he refused to use potential in the squad because he didn't fit the template on attitude ...... that's when management is actually required

Johngee - I don't think Joby has missed the point at all.

You can't maintain the team spirit and togetherness that has been a vital part in keeping us up this year if you allow players like Beckford to poison the club.

No individual is bigger than the team no matter how good they are. Take this approach and you end up QPR.

I would have thought that Morgan would consider a move back to Forest if the circumstances were right. I find it hard to believe that he'd give up actual Premier League football to do it though, particularly with Pearson in charge.

As for Beckford, I don't hold any ill feeling toward him. I've long since come to the conclusion that Beckford is something of a law unto himself - his behaviour strikes me as being childish rather than in any way malicious, even when he has acted like an idiot at times.

However, the problem with him as a player is twofold:

Firstly, he's inconsistent. You don't know what you're going to get from him from one week to another. For a team that prides itself on putting in good effort each week, that would make him very difficult to accommodate.

Second is the more important factor: He's high maintenance. A manager has to expend a lot of energy to get the best from him, and that is energy (both real time and emotional) that he then doesn't have to get the best from the rest of his team.

Both of these factors together lead to a key question: Is he worth it? Is he worth the uncertainty regarding the level of performance he'll put in each week? Is he worth the effort? In both League 1 and a Huddersfield team trying to stave off relegation, the answer was yes: He can be a very good player on his day and has a lot of skill about him. But he's not good enough to warrant this when chasing promotion in the Championship. If he's got significantly more about him than the rest of the squad - and is a big fish in a small pond - then he can be worth it, and that's why he's performed well when at smaller clubs or lesser situations. But for what we and Pearson needed, he didn't fit the bill and was rightly moved on.

I can't really add to what Mersey and Dunge have said about Beckford. The general point was that Pearson usually gets it right with the players he drops.

The trouble with listing individuals is that there may always be one that could be challenged in terms of Pearson's judgement. Nobody can be right all of the time and there will always be an exception to break the rule. Albrighton may have been that exception- Beckford isn't!

Sorry for delay Dunge - -his goals for Huddersfield were in Championship - also if you saw his goals last week - what striker have we got with either skill or vision to score similar..... if you didn't see them -worth a look
Its not a case Joby about whether Beckford had a future at the club at the time - he was being paid by us- had a skill we needed -and a good manager would have ..............managed

"A good manager would have.... managed"

Like Feguson managed Stam? Beckham? Van Nistelrooy?

Like Martin O'Neil managed Reo Coker?

The much heralded Pulis and Beattie?

A good manager quickly identifies those not willing to fit in to the team and removes them.

You can't still believe a player who has spent his career sliding down the leagues since one decent FA Cup game is worthy of "managing".

Not even actual talented players are offered that (Balotelli, Tevez etc).

Great managers create successful teams. Those that pander to players usually fail. Peter Taylor was nice to his players apparently.

Why are we arguing about whether a championship reject should have been managed better by someone who's career has gone entirely in the opposite direction?

I've seen the long shot goal - it was very good and I'm sure very entertaining, although when you're that far ahead you can try things like that with ease. And I know his goals for Huddersfield were in the Championship. But none of that changes my point: He can bring something and he has ability, but not enough of it to make the acceptance of his negative points (his mindset and professionalism) worthwhile at a higher level.

Not been on here for a day or so but Beckford? Very old news and very succinctly put Merseyside