STADIUM MK

Leaving aside your hopeless attempts to rile me, let's deal with what little there is of worth in your post...

"But as you have said that you don't know how much the footbasll club is charged"

And nor do you. Yet you know the bigger stadium will be more expensive to maintain. And yet you PRESUME the football club isn't paying anything at all. Now you tell me, which is the more logical position to take?

Because it's me you're trying to argue with you have allowed yourself to become trapped in a wholly illogical position. If you stepped back from your crusade to prove me wrong about something you'd be able to see that.

"I didn't admit I was completely wrong about the srtuctures, I said I could see how they were diferent"

Same thing. Wrong is wrong. You made insupportable assertions and were found out. Since then, you have gone on these ridiculous rants, thrown around wild accusations and tried to smear Wimbledon with financial allegations that aren't true.

"You just cant grasp the fact that money passed around the group is better than money being passed out of the group.can you?"

Face facts - money going to InterMK does not mean money going to the football club. Who gives a stuff what InterMK is doing, that's just Winkelman's property company. Do you check out the financial status of Brighton's owner and presume that money they earn elsewhere will magically benefit the football club? No, of course you don't, so why absurdly maintain this delusion about InterMK?

And still you blither on about Wimbledon's ownership structure, when it is perfectly simple - the football club owns the stadium. Got that? There's a company structure, but the entire structure is the football club and exists SOLELY to benefit the football club. Comprende? Capiche? Verstehen? Entende?

MK's football club does not own its stadium and can be sold separately from it. The implications of that are huge and even most of the Franchise customers understand this and are rightly bored to tears with the subject now, making your late arrival on the subject all the more absurd.

Winkelman could sell the stadium and the new owners could start charging the football club more money. Or Winkelman could sell the football club and do the same himself. Without the football club actually owning the stadium it has no guarantees of income from it or of its future status with regard to tenure, rent or anything else, aside from signed contracts. Do you understand?

I'm a patient man Bill, but after all these years you really should know this basic stuff by now.

Bath, you still don't grasp the concept that if an owner has money to spend they can spend it on the club. If the owner doesn't earn money, then they can't spend it on the club because they don't have it.

So if the money goes outside the group, the money isn't available to spend, if it stays in the group it is!!

With regard to AFCW, so if the man owns the goldfish and football, and he is only in one business, then the Goldfish does own the football?

"Bath, you still don't grasp the concept that if an owner has money to spend they can spend it on the club. If the owner doesn't earn money, then they can't spend it on the club because they don't have it."

What's to grasp. Are you really this unbelievably simple? Were you sat there in 2002 saying "The Norwegians are billionaires, so they can spend it on the club." Really? Wake up man. You are talking nonsense. How much money the owner does or doesn't have is irrelevant... except of course that in Winkelman's case he doesn't have money and the club's losses are now being covered by a £5.5m bank loan! So stop wittering on about InterMK's income and comparing it to moneybags owners when it is completely irrelevant.

"So if the money goes outside the group, the money isn't available to spend, if it stays in the group it is!!"

As above. Stop grasping at non-existent straws.

"With regard to AFCW, so if the man owns the goldfish and football, and he is only in one business, then the Goldfish does own the football?"

No. In the analogy, the man IS the football club. You lost this argument some while ago, as even you had to concede, so persisting with this dumbness isn't making you look any better. Wimbledon owns its stadium, Franchise FC doesn't and that's all there is to it.

Bath, no, especially as the Norwegians had already said they weren't prepared to spend any more money.

Winkelman has always maintained he was prepared to spend money on the club, Winkelman owns InterMK, therefore any money loaned by them for the football club has to be paid back, so Winkelman is paying.

Its a bit like a man has £50 to spend, his son needs a £50 pair of football boots, his dad wants his car washed.

If the Dad takes his car to the car wash and spends £10, the money is gone (the Car Wash company has it)

He then has to buy his son a .pair of boots, but can only buy a pair for £40.

If he agrees to buy his son the boots if he washes the car, he saves the cost of the carwash (£10)

You was the one who brought up the Man and his Goldfish and footbal, not me, now you are saying it doesn''t apply!!

Now you're just being ridiculous... make that MORE ridiculous. I'll take that as acceptance that you've given up.

Why not, you take everything else as facts when they are not true

Bill, you just make up whatever you want as you go along, so quit crying into your beer, it's pathetic. You've been spouting b0ll0x for months and you know it. I've called you on every last piece of dog *hit you've come up with and I can continue to do so.

Learn one lesson... the truth will out. F*** you.

I know it will, that’s why you won't give an opinion on how long PW should keep the club after he gets the stadium, So when he gives it up when he is in his 80's you can say “See I was right he was only after the stadium.”
You continually present snide innuendo as facts, even though you have nothing to back them up.
Now you are using foul language because you know you have nothing.
And as for the last sentence, you will just have to keep fantasising because you will never have enough money to turn it into reality. I don’t mind though, just don’t get your keyboard wet.

Ha! That old crutch. I use foul language every day, so do most people. Not much on forums because it gets modded. It means as much about who has lost an argument as the rest of your claptrap - nothing. And still you witter on about me being proved right. I don't need to be right Bill, but you are wrong. I'm not wasting time on garbage that makes no sense and that no one is reading anyway. I do find your obsession with me amusing though, it's nice to have a new stalker. Be seeing you.

Oh dear, that says as more about you and your lack of character than I ever could.