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Stoke 6-1 Liverpool Match Thread Live

LFC:Mignolet, Can, Skrtel, Sakho, Moreno, Lucas, Allen, Henderson, Gerrard, Lallana, Coutinho

Subs:Ward, Toure, Lovren, Lambert, Sterling, Ibe, Markovic

SFC:Begovic, Cameron, Shawcross, Muniesa, Pieters, Nzonzi, Whelan, Walters, Adam, Arnautovic, Diouf.

MATCH FACTS
Head-to-head

•All 22 of Stoke's top-flight wins against Liverpool have come at home.
•Liverpool are on a three-game winning run against the Potters and have lost only once to them in eight matches in all competitions (W5, D2).
•Twelve goals have been scored in the last two meetings at the Britannia Stadium.
Stoke

•Stoke's 51 points is a Premier League club record and their best top-flight total since they earned 57 in 1982-83.
•The Potters are guaranteed a second successive ninth-placed Premier League finish.
•Stoke have lost only one of their last six matches (W2, D3).
•Mark Hughes has won only two of 17 league matches as a manager against Liverpool (D6, L9).
Liverpool

•The Reds have won just one of their last five games and averaged a point per match in that period.
•However, only Arsenal and Chelsea have earned more points than Liverpool's 34 this calendar year.
•Liverpool can equal a Premier League club record of nine away clean sheets in a single season.
•Brendan Rodgers' side have scored 51 goals - 48 fewer than at the same stage of last season.
•Steven Gerrard will make his 710th and final appearance for Liverpool in all competitions. Only Ian Callaghan (857) and Jamie Carragher (737) have played more matches for the Reds.
•Gerrard is currently Liverpool's top league scorer with eight goals. The last time their top scorer failed to hit double figures was in 2004-05 when Milan Baros scored nine times.

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posted on 25/5/15

comment by righteous1 (U7048)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
That's fair TOOR, as is the opinion he should go.

It's not knee-jerk idiocy just because you disagree with it.
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I didn't say it was knee jerk idiocy, you did, a few months back.

posted on 25/5/15

comment by righteous1 (U7048)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
If you accept 5th/6th is our level, which I can understand, then surely winning trophies (especially the Europa with its CL appeal) becomes even more important.

The only way to stay a big club and stay in people's minds is to win stuff.

I don't see Rodgers as being good enough to win stuff.

I see him being good enough to compete and be a nearly man.

There is no reason with our money we can't be getting to the latter stages of the EL. I can accept we can't compete with City, Chelsea etc. don't tell me we can't compete with Dnipro, Sevilla, Napoli and Benfica etc.

Rodgers has had two cracks at it and fell at the first KO hurdle both times.

I don't see anything to see why that will suddenly change and we will go deep in the competition, nor why we will suddenly win a domestic cup.

The chances have been there already and we haven't taken them.
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If that's what you wanted from the club I cant See why you'd be 50/50 on Dalglish going. He had us doing very well in cups. I want something different from the club and that's why I wanted the change. Rodgers has shown he can do that and I feel can do it often if allowed to continue.

posted on 25/5/15

I dont think Rodgers has a plan. Any player who is even slightly versatile plays nearly every position on pitch except in goal. Look at Marko, even Sterling, Can, Hendo, Coutinho, Johnson... Dang near everyone. Rodgers does not know the players' best position despite spending a minimum of a year with everyone of them. It would be quicker to list players who have settled into a position than those who have not because you'd have Mig alone, and thats by default.
Rodgers has to change formation and personel midgame every other time. Having to do this once in a while is good management but for Rodgers it indicates that he does not know what he is doing because he always has to do it. He sets us up wrong, rectifies it mid game, we sneak a draw or win and people are waxing lyrical about his tactical nous.
I expect a manager of three years to be past that stage. My confidence in Rodgers is running very very low.

posted on 25/5/15

ive said it on a few articles now,

I really want brendan to stay, coaching, educating the youth, tactically outclassing the opposition are some of his greatest traits.

i also think he has a great eye for a player, costa the year before he became the main man at atletico, Mhkitaryian prior to dortmund, Sanchez when unwanted at barca, Willian prior to chelsea, Salah, the list goes on with his primary transfer candidates.

but he couldnt attract any of them, they were not delivered, then we end up with second, third choices etc, and we drift further from the ideal class of player, with the ideal attributes..

Case in point is getting aspas instead of costa last season.

When BR joined he refused to have a DOF and comprimised with FSG on a transfer commitee, its time for FSG to say to him "we want a big name DoF to help draw in the big names you want" and its time for brendan to swallow a little bit of pride and say "i need that help" because untill he wins things, he cant draw them.

if he refuses, then de boer and klopp have both worked under a DoF, and both would do so again im sure, while in turn having their own big name appeal.

brendan taking a step back from transfers, negotiations, scouting etc would be good for him, let him concentrate more of his time on coaching our young squad, analysing their performances and improving them on training ground, tactically out thinking the opposition

he could still be involved in transfers, and identifying players etc, but its clear we need more big name appeal, this can be achieved while keeping brendan, if brendan cant get on board with the clubs need for that, then he should probably leave, he will never fulfill his potential if he cant identify his faults

posted on 25/5/15


I didn't say it was knee jerk idiocy, you did, a few months back.

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Yes, in about November when I wrote that article. It was knee-jerk in November.

A lot has happened since then, hasn't it?

posted on 25/5/15

Personally I think we have every chance of turning three losses and a draw into four wins? Really?

Would he then be a good manager like last season instead of the bad manager he is now?

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Management is basically that simple.

It comes down to moments, a bit of good luck, or bad luck, a great decision, a bad decision. A great signing, a bad signing.

It's all small margins.

If it wasn't then no managers would ever get sacked because very few do utterly abysmal jobs.

Most do ok. Most have excuses for why they could have done better. A hard luck story, an injury here, a player they wanted but didn't get there.

A small percentage become the serial winners.

As one of the top clubs in England, and richest clubs in the world, we should be targeting the small percentage.

Rodgers isn't it, and hasn't done enough to suggest he will be any time soon.

You don't keep getting chances to win.

A reputation disappears quicker than it arrives.

posted on 25/5/15

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posted on 25/5/15

Problem is Rodgers will see it that if we bring in a DoF and go on to better things, he will never really get the credit for it. Most will go to the DoF.

posted on 25/5/15

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posted on 25/5/15

Bwendan Wodgers!!!

PLEASE KEEP HIM!

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