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derby v wolves - player ratings

a fairly dismal sunday afternoon unfortunately. scores as I saw them:

martinez - 5: a couple of excellent saves but costs us once again with a stupid mistake.
iorfa - 4: not a good game, big hand in derby's second goal and regularly lost his man or lost the ball
DB - 6: tough day against the very good (and very professional) martin. about the best I can say is he wasn't the worst of our defenders
hause - 4: like iorfa, made too many mistakes, some of which cost us dearly. derby regularly given way too much time in the centre of the box
goldy - 6: a bit like batth, not the worst. handled tom ince with relative comfort but only at the expense of any forward play
henry - 6: like our very own HMHW, 50/50 from henry. some good play, involved in most of our best moments but also frustratingly wasteful at times
price - 5: quiet day and never quite got up to the pace of the game. couldn't cope with the strength, pace or movement of derby's forward players
kmac - 5: ok first half but as the game wore on resulted to long hopeful punts down field, like watching a taller, less toad-like o'hara. with price, failed to protect back four and failed to link up with front two.
wallace - 4: maybe LM isn't his position. but still should have been better than he was. largely anonymous, and lost possession too often.
afobe - 5: another goal, another frustrating performance. can anyone else remember anything he did of note apart from score?
ALF - 5: playing the narky little terrier role but without the real impact of the very best in that position. good goal, like afobe, but overall derby's CBs will feel they had an easy afternoon from wolves forwards

coady - 4: £2m? ran around a bit but to no real end. poor touch and lost the ball several times. seemed scared to go much beyond the half way line. a waste of a substitution when we were trailing by two goals.
ojo - 4: got involved straight away with an assist for the goal but then seemed to go back to his training ground approach, jogging around and adding no pace or urgency.
eno - 4: no real time to make an impression. gave away a silly foul in a bad position to get booked but at least seemed interested.

KJ - 4: changed a winning team for no apparent reason. seemed happy to just sit back and watch rather than try to change anything, until we were already 4-1 down. tbf, not much on the bench for him to use, but a lot of that is down to his own poor buys and choices.


with a tough match next Saturday, vital that wolves bounce back and beat brentford mid week. will need us to play as we did for 20 minutes of today's game, and not the other 70.

posted on 20/10/15

comment by Tatter (U6440)
posted 48 minutes ago
All the good ones are in the match day squad or on loan so they can prepare for being in the match day squad.
.................................
not answering my point.
in the team we have an arsenal and 2 liverpool rejects
would we not be better off dropping the academy that costs us £4 mill plus a year ( 2 afobes) and get on a mailing list for top prem clubs throwouts ?

posted on 20/10/15

comment by Tino's mutant ninja eye-ties (U2087)
posted 6 minutes ago
sometimes I think managers tinker just to remind us they exist

pick your best XI and stick with it where possible....don't change a winning team - let the players on the outside "earn" the shirt

really isn't that hard
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You're right Tino, it's actually simple with the squad we have:

Ikeme
Iorfa
bath
Hause
Golbourne
Henry
Edwards
McDonald
Byrne
Afobe
Le Fondre

Bench: Martinez, EEL, Doherty, Price, Ojo

(The rest are pants and haven't earned a place on the bench yet let alone in the team)

posted on 20/10/15

comment by geminmallorca (U18318)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Tino's mutant ninja eye-ties (U2087)
posted 6 minutes ago
sometimes I think managers tinker just to remind us they exist

pick your best XI and stick with it where possible....don't change a winning team - let the players on the outside "earn" the shirt

really isn't that hard
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You're right Tino, it's actually simple with the squad we have:

Ikeme
Iorfa
bath
Hause
Golbourne
Henry
Edwards
McDonald
Byrne
Afobe
Le Fondre

Bench: Martinez, EEL, Doherty, Price, Ojo

(The rest are pants and haven't earned a place on the bench yet let alone in the team)
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in a nice traditional 4-4-2

posted on 20/10/15

comment by Tino's mutant ninja eye-ties (U2087)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by geminmallorca (U18318)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Tino's mutant ninja eye-ties (U2087)
posted 6 minutes ago
sometimes I think managers tinker just to remind us they exist

pick your best XI and stick with it where possible....don't change a winning team - let the players on the outside "earn" the shirt

really isn't that hard
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're right Tino, it's actually simple with the squad we have:

Ikeme
Iorfa
bath
Hause
Golbourne
Henry
Edwards
McDonald
Byrne
Afobe
Le Fondre

Bench: Martinez, EEL, Doherty, Price, Ojo

(The rest are pants and haven't earned a place on the bench yet let alone in the team)
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in a nice traditional 4-4-2
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Correct!

posted on 20/10/15

The problem is that Jackett doesn't yet know his best side or his preferred formation and we are 25% of the way through the season.
He doesn't even know his best goalkeeper, let alone how to fill the voids created by the losses of Stearman, Dicko, and Sako. Couple this with the relatively short-term injuries which all squads have to cope with, to Edwards and EEL and it's no surprise that Wolves is inconsistent.
It wouldn't be so bad if he played players in their correct positions, however Jackett does like to tinker and try to fit square pegs into round holes. How many players has he tried to shoehorn into the left wing slot!
Jackett had a system and the basis of a half-decent team last season. Most managers would finesse this to cover the unavoidable loss of Sako, but not our Kenny.
Rip it up and start again!

posted on 20/10/15

shut the academy and get on chelsea's mailing list

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/chelsea-thirty-three-players-out-6381749

posted on 20/10/15

I automatically dislike any formation with 1-up-top
so for me either go a flat 4-4-2
or as we have no actual left winger and our best attacking width comes from our full-backs a 4-4-2 diamond.....4 central mids so we can control possession good for the stats...2 strikers and a solid spine

posted on 20/10/15

The last player we "took" from Chelsea was Saville. If he's the benchmark, I think that we are better off sticking with Arsenal's cast-offs.
Having said that, had Bamford been at Wolves alongside Dicko for the whole of last season, we'd be playing Chelsea this season.

posted on 20/10/15

comment by Wolfgang (U8869)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by Tatter (U6440)
posted 48 minutes ago
All the good ones are in the match day squad or on loan so they can prepare for being in the match day squad.
.................................
not answering my point.
in the team we have an arsenal and 2 liverpool rejects
would we not be better off dropping the academy that costs us £4 mill plus a year ( 2 afobes) and get on a mailing list for top prem clubs throwouts ?

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Hardly surprising, I wasn't even responding to your post.

Will the academy prove to be self sustaining in the future (which I think is the gist of your badly worded point I didn't answer previously)?

I don't know.

If your £4m a year figure is correct (source please) and it is a net rather than gross annual cost then it is big chunk of our income and it will need to regularly provide players for our team and to trade on.


Should we be picking up rejects from other academies? Yes we must try to identify players from as many different sources as possible.

posted on 20/10/15

not sure on Crewe Alex's costs but their academy seems to have kept them running for as long as I remember

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