Jose sacked!!!

comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Karma's a biitchI hoped that he would stick around long enough to see Wenger and Cech lifting the league title though.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yeh me too

comment by The GOONER (U4256)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
If Mourinho gets sacked after one season of failure, Wenger needs to count his lucky stars he wasn't employed by Obramovich, or anyone else other than the current Arsenal board the last 10 years. How he kept his job with 9 trophy less years is nothing short of an absolute miracle for him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
not really a miracle, Wenger over the 10 years objective was to get them into CL which he did.

comment by Passion Power -I'm a .....¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U8398)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by The GOONER (U4256)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
If Mourinho gets sacked after one season of failure, Wenger needs to count his lucky stars he wasn't employed by Obramovich, or anyone else other than the current Arsenal board the last 10 years. How he kept his job with 9 trophy less years is nothing short of an absolute miracle for him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
not really a miracle, Wenger over the 10 years objective was to get them into CL which he did.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That is not an achievement for a club like Arsenal, Chelsea, Man United, City etc.How Wenger kept his job while Monk and Mourinho lost theirs is a joke.

comment by The GOONER (U4256)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Passion Power -I'm a .....¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (U8398)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by The GOONER (U4256)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
If Mourinho gets sacked after one season of failure, Wenger needs to count his lucky stars he wasn't employed by Obramovich, or anyone else other than the current Arsenal board the last 10 years. How he kept his job with 9 trophy less years is nothing short of an absolute miracle for him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
not really a miracle, Wenger over the 10 years objective was to get them into CL which he did.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That is not an achievement for a club like Arsenal, Chelsea, Man United, City etc.How Wenger kept his job while Monk and Mourinho lost theirs is a joke.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why can't people understand this? Wenger did not get sacked for all those years because for all those years, the board was not demanding he win a trophy. He was set the goal of keeping us in the ECL as many years of the restricted spending 10 as possible.

If you set a man a target of 5 or 6 out of 10 and he hits 10 out of 10. You don't sack him, you give him a bonus. Many Arsenal fans have had the misguided thought that THIER trophy demands were a part of Wenger's targets. THEY WEREN'T

Like it or not, we took a route that meant ECL qualification was our main priority and target. Wenger hit his target year after year, despite the spending odds being well against him. The sacked managers, never hit theirs.

True to a point wb2. The fans could have turned on Wenger early on. And it wouldn't have mattered what the board called success. Wenger couldn't have survived. The breaking point came with the sale of RVP. (and RVP then leading an average Man Utd side to the title). The relationship between Wenger and the gooner nation, and I don't mean those who come to these forums but those who actually pay his wages, the season ticket holders, has turned sour since that sale. The bin liner protest, empty seats, open criticism of playing style (we haven't been fluid since we sold RVP), the lack of time given to Ozil to adjust (compared to the past), even Josh Kroenke letting it be known he was not happy, has all come since that proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. I wish someone had advised Wenger to keep RVP at all costs for the final year of his contract. Wenger should NEVER have sanctioned that deal.

Jenius

I think someone probably did but Wenger still got rid. RVP was trouble. He split the dressing room before and Wenger made the wrong choice and sided with him. Players got upset, people left, taking their future signing badass little brothers with them. Veterans didn't want to be around as long as that

At some point, Wenger realised that talented as RVP was, he SHOULD have gotten rid of him back then. So was more than happy to get a twilight cash in of 25 mil. Squad/team morale did seem to get a lot jollier once he was gone

I wrote an article at the time and still stand by it that getting rid of RVP was not the problem - failing to replace him was and that was a sackable offense.

"I wrote an article at the time and still stand by it that getting rid of RVP was not the problem - failing to replace him was and that was a sackable offense."

Its a bit of both. Big clubs don't sell key players (not surplus players like Cech) to each other. We did once before with Ashley Cole but Dein was clever enough to disguise it with Gallas. Whats more Cole was left back and but RVP was captain. But I agree when you do sell a key player you have to make a huge statement in the market to announce to the fanbase you are replacing him with someone better. We never made that statement. So Wenger publicly categorized us a second rate club. I think Wenger broke the bond with some of us who have allegiance to Arsenal before he arrived. I don't know if he will get back, maybe if he wins the league, but the FA Cups weren't enough by the reactions I see in the stadium.

I think someone probably did but Wenger still got rid. RVP was trouble.
----------------------------

Be honest in your discussions m8. Why did he make him captain if anything you say is true? Who left because of RVP?

When United came calling with that bid and those wages I think time was up for RVP at Arsenal. Yes we could have forced him to see out his final year of his contract with us but best option IMO was to secure a replacement then let RVP go to United.

We didn't, we failed, we continued.