Perceptions

Yet both managers will be/have been sacked

Buck lies with the manager, just like Rodgers had to go too

both sets of players are to blame

ignore the short sighted view that a manager is to blame for everything and the old notion the buck stops with the manager

Chelsea failing - Manager's fault 100%

We're playing the same way without Jose... We upped it last week against Sunderland because they were dreadful!!

Play a decent team (compared to us!!!!!) and we do the same thing.