Kronke Unveiled!!

The board and Wenger are not wrong in what they are saying but it's the way they are saying it IMO and in turn its disrespecting the Arsenal fans.

Football is BIG business there's no denying that but it's a business that is fueled by the fans, without the fans it's a business that does not sustain itself.

The heart of that business is the team itself and it's under performing badly. The fans pay a lot of money to watch Arsenal and with the modern game (business) they demand and want the very best or at least be challenging for it in both titles and the way we play.

Neither has been happening for a good few years now so although the board are happy to keep running their successful financial business model with it's merchandise, without the fans they are nothing.

IMO this should be acknowledged more publicly by them and most of all, they should make the changes the fans want to get us challenging at the very top and playing entertaining football again.

I'm not sure our own fans have the bottle, maybe that's an inherent weakness in Arsenal period but they should really make a stand, those that pay all that money week in week out to support the team.

Yet you've spent a quarter-billion over 3 years...

So have United, Chelsea, Newcastle and Liverpool.

comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 7 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Ibe-Wan Kenobi (U6997)
posted 48 minutes ago
Against those that do run the clubs as something of a hobby/way to spend money (City/Chelsea) then you can't expect to win championships.

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Hobbyidiot
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Yes a hobby. Abramovich is worth something like $10 billion, if I was worth that much I'd buy a football club too. And it wouldn't be my job, it would be something fun.

It's not an insult, just the way it is. Some clubs are focused on profit and some aren't.

There is a huge difference between sport in the US and sport in the rest of the world. Sport in the US is about business and money, and if a team is out of the running after 50% of the season, year in and year out, that is just the way it is, no relegation means the revenues are still there the following year. In the rest of the world sport is about competition, about winning things, or about being promoted or even about avoiding being relegated. Nearly all teams have something to play for as the season nears the end, very few teams in any sport in the US do. Arsenal have an owner for whom winning isn't as important as making money, because that is the US way. United won't win much with LVG but the business decision is to allow him to stay as another manager means more money. It is tough for Arsenal fans, you have an owner that will never share your passion for winning. It is easy to dislike Roman, but he does have a passion for winning.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 9 hours, 33 minutes ago
Wow, what an awful interpretation of what was said

He is saying he didn't buy Arsenal just to win titles - he wants more than that. He is talking about the long term, making Arsenal a club that can get the very best players regularly - and with it long term success - not just spunk a load of cash in a non - sustainable way of getting titles in the short term.
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I'm no fan of Stan but I don't know if people just read the headline and madly start bashing away on their keyboard on Ja606, or if they are actually unable to comprehend the nuances of someone's words.

He isn't saying "I don't want to win/don't care about winning championships", he is saying he didn't buy the club with the mindset of a fan, i.e. as a means to bag shiny trophies, wanting to win titles over all else. He bought it as a business. He is a businessman. he does business stuff. His philosophy is that if he runs the club as a great business, that should support ongoing success on the pitch.

This is pretty basic stuff.

"He is saying he didn't buy Arsenal just to win titles - he wants more than that. He is talking about the long term, making Arsenal a club that can get the very best players regularly - and with it long term success - not just spunk a load of cash in a non - sustainable way of getting titles in the short term."


You've gone as far in the opposite direction with your interpretation as the OP did with his!

Speaking at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference in Boston he said: “For me, being an individual owner, I have to have some sort of reality involved.

“If you want to win championships then you would never get involved. I think the best owners in sports are the guys that sort of watch both sides a bit. If you don't have a good business then you can't really afford to go out and get the best players unless you just want to rely on other sources of income.


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Stan Kroenke has warned Arsenal fans that he doubts they will be able to compete with rival clubs such as Chelsea and Manchester City in terms of expenditure, claiming: “If you want to win Championships then you would never get involved.”

The American majority shareholder, who also owns NFL franchise the Los Angeles Rams and the Colorado Avalanche of the NHL, has been at the Arsenal helm since 2011, where he took his stake in the club to 66.64 per cent.

Kroenke has earned opprobrium from Arsenal fans for the way in which the club has been run. The Gunners have cash of nearly £160million which could be available to invest in players, however last summer passed with Arsene Wenger spending only £10m on Chelsea’s Petr Cech.

In the same window Manchester ity spent nearly £150m on the likes of Kevin De Bruyne, Raheem Sterling and Nicolas Otamendi, whilst Chelsea invested £62m in eight players.
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These two sides have won six Premier League titles since Arsenal last led the top flight in 2004 but Kroenke warned he would not support mass spending to get his side back up the table.

Speaking at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference in Boston he said: “For me, being an individual owner, I have to have some sort of reality involved.

“If you want to win championships then you would never get involved. I think the best owners in sports are the guys that sort of watch both sides a bit. If you don't have a good business then you can't really afford to go out and get the best players unless you just want to rely on other sources of income.
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“Over there [in the Premier League] it was sort of like 'well, we've got guys from the Middle East, the oil price is over $100, they can spend anything they want'.

“But the problem I saw with all of that; those people can lose interest. It doesn't mean that they will, but I sort of threw that out there: 'What happens when the Middle Eastern family, this thing's costing a lot of money and they decide to go home?' I said what really happens in those situations is the fans get hurt because the players get picked up and paid if they're good, the front office gets other jobs.”

what a mess

heres what he said

Speaking at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference in Boston he said: “For me, being an individual owner, I have to have some sort of reality involved.

“If you want to win championships then you would never get involved. I think the best owners in sports are the guys that sort of watch both sides a bit. If you don't have a good business then you can't really afford to go out and get the best players unless you just want to rely on other sources of income.

“Over there [in the Premier League] it was sort of like 'well, we've got guys from the Middle East, the oil price is over $100, they can spend anything they want'.

“But the problem I saw with all of that; those people can lose interest. It doesn't mean that they will, but I sort of threw that out there: 'What happens when the Middle Eastern family, this thing's costing a lot of money and they decide to go home?' I said what really happens in those situations is the fans get hurt because the players get picked up and paid if they're good, the front office gets other jobs.”

For all you lot thinking I've "misinterpreted" Kronke's words...do a little research on this fella's clubs he owns in the US and you'll see how chock full of title winning ambition this guy is!....you've been warned, this guy will be comfortable as a cat with warm milk if Arsenal NEVER wins a title ever again....as long as the cash keeps flowing!....marry that mindset with the average "big club" where winning stuff is absolutely essential and you'll eventually see how dangerous the mindset of Kronke and the present board is

his others are all under Kroenke Sports Enterprises not him personally though