Atletico

I don't think we would be considering Simeone for Arsenal had Bayern put two past them instead of Pep resting his attacking players and settling for a narrow defeat or draw.
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And do you think Wenger could ever intimidate the manager of a top European club into accepting a narrow defeat in a CL semi final?

comment by ● (U4443)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think we would be considering Simeone for Arsenal had Bayern put two past them instead of Pep resting his attacking players and settling for a narrow defeat or draw.
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And do you think Wenger could ever intimidate the manager of a top European club into accepting a narrow defeat in a CL semi final?
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Lets leave Wenger out of it cause I am not defending him. I said in 2012 that Wenger now has the budget to win things and he has to prove by the end of his next contract that he can win the title to dispel the belief that David Dein had far more to do with our success than the media gives him credit for.

Pep is a known workaholic. Its one reason for his sabbatical a couple of years ago. He has tremendous preparation for every game. And he doesn't believe in the preposterous old fashioned idea that you can impose your game on the opposition. So the fact he altered his gameplan for Athletico is no surprise. But I believe you shouldn't confuse that with being intimidated or fear. Its just respect for what Simeone has done for Atletico.

The point is do I believe Simeone can replicate that at clubs where the expectation and the dressing room egos are far higher is questionable. You also have to take into account that Atletico were almost bankrupt. They are run by a family which has a very poor corruption record in Spain. So Simeone's hard working ethos and style fits them like a glove because he can't rely on the fancy-dans who flit from club to club.

comment by ||The Great AFL©||™ (U11952)
posted 53 minutes ago
Atletico generally play dreadful football, but it works for them. I don't want to see that kind of football here. The kind of football I want to see here is the dynamic style that Heynckes had Bayern playing in his last season. Closest to that would be Schmidt, Tuchel and Pochettino. The latter two would be very unlikely.
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Not sure what you have watched yesterday?

In the first half Atletico played top level Football technically and tactically. In my view it was pure entertainment.

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by ||The Great AFL©||™ (U11952)
posted 53 minutes ago
Atletico generally play dreadful football, but it works for them. I don't want to see that kind of football here. The kind of football I want to see here is the dynamic style that Heynckes had Bayern playing in his last season. Closest to that would be Schmidt, Tuchel and Pochettino. The latter two would be very unlikely.
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Not sure what you have watched yesterday?

In the first half Atletico played top level Football technically and tactically. In my view it was pure entertainment.
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Cockneys

Cockney Mancs

comment by Sheriff John Brown - bring back David Dein (U7482)
posted 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
FFS, look at how they beat Barca. Convincingly over 2 legs despite playing 70 mins of the 180 with 10-men and unfavourable red card decisions (Suarez and Iniesta should have walked) that could have cost them. How do you watch a tactical masterclass like that which is routine for Simeone and turn your nose up at him. It's ludicrous.
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Agree with this fully, honestly dont understand what people are watching when they say Atletico play dreadful football. These guys are very technically proficient, regularly put together some devastating counter attacking moves, and actually neatly retain possession very well when they need and choose to.

People seem to label them boring as they're happy to concede possession in favour of prioritising defensive solidarity and commitment first, then followed by quick attacks. They don't give up leads easily, and they do attack in numbers when they sense the opposition is down, but also have enough awareness not to overcommit unnecessarily.

Give me that over what we serve up nowadays and i'll take it and run

A lot of directors far cleverer than me have considered him and then dropped the idea after a bit of due diligence.
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You seem to have an argument style where every point you make is tailored to suit your pre-concieved notions
What would you or any of us know about who has been after Simeone and who hasn't? Has he made himself available to clubs and got rejected?

And to call Simeone "flavour of the moment" is a tad ridiculous after all he's done. How much longer does he have to prove himself? 20 years?

comment by Yohan's Kebab Van (U8691)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
Cockney Mancs
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Mockneys

Simeone is a top 3 manager in the world no doubt and I like him a lot but it'd be too much a transition at Arsenal. Only players I see fitting his profile are Sanchez, Welbeck, Monreal, Coquelin, Gabriel. Maybe chuck Santi in there since he wanted him a couple years back

Our players naturally like to attack. In his system you have enjoy to defend and do the dirty side our players don't have that mentality and will take a while to instill it, Wenger has stained them for too long.

Our players need structure to their attack, learn how to build play move into specific areas at the right times and distribute to the right people.

If you look at how Dortmund have been in build-up this season it's probably Tuchel who'd suit us. Germany are producing the biggest geniuses at the minute, worth looking for our new coach there.

Even Blanc tbf not everyone's cup of tea but he plays the right way and has superb ideas of how to move the ball forward, I'd gamble on him.

Whoever we get has to be close to the philosophy we have but obviously good at it unlike Wenger these days. Wenger doesn't coach moves or possession football anymore it's just a matter of most our players given freedom, we need attacking structure