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Times up Gordon you've had your chance and as much as i think your a cracking guy and a great football man, it's of my opinion that if we don't get someone of the likes of a Warburton then we most likely will be sitting at home again as another tournament kicks off.

The one club rule and philosophy adopted at Rangers under Warburton is what's needed in the Scotland setup.

Playing defensive and counter attacking football will not get us to qualification over a set of fixtures when at times we need to go for it.

You can't tell me we don't have the players, i think we do.

Was Craig Brown's generation better quality over the selection from the last 15 years?

It really is time to change and the performance director role is a great idea but we need the right man in charge with a set of values and philosophy's to match that of a nation of 5.5M people whom are eager to see their nation compete at a major footballing event.

Another issue hindering us also is genetics, i've being saying this for many a year. When you compare us to the English, Germans and the French and many others and look under the hood you'll find African,Caribbean and Turkish genes representing those nations.

If man for man we can't match the physical presence then surely we need the proper coaching and footballing education of a national side that's known for footballing ability but lacks that presence.

I'm just sick of our predicament in the game and how everyone expects us to fail.

Away back in 07/08 Marcello Lippi came out publicly and said out of all the smaller nations Scotland is the bigger of them all and that we have a lot of quality and great football men that we can rely on to achieve great success with. What has changed? What went wrong? Scottish football was buzzing at a time when Celtic and Rangers were playing champs league football, Scotland was within a baw hair of qualifying for the euro's if we could beat Italy and Rangers got to a Uefa Cup final.

We have a selection of players playing North and South of the boarder, i can only think that it has been disastrous appointments and negative tactics that have screwed us along the way and the one that sticks out and i'll never forgive him for is Levein's 4-6-0 formation WTF.

How do we improve and can we???

comment by Mr T - (U20754)

posted on 6/6/16

comment by Stevie - time for real change (U11028)
posted 11 minutes ago
We should not be afraid to pitch young lads in if we think they are good enough.

If they are good enough, they should be playing, whether that be judged in performances at club level or in the under 19s/21s etc.

We dont do that
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There's not been stand outs at under 21 or under 19 level that haven't been looked at. There are no up and coming world class players.

He can only pi55 with the caawk he's got. Unfortunately he's pi55ing on his hand and down his trousers. And on to his shoes.

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 6/6/16

comment by MrT's Legitimate Son (U20754)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Stevie - time for real change (U11028)
posted 11 minutes ago
We should not be afraid to pitch young lads in if we think they are good enough.

If they are good enough, they should be playing, whether that be judged in performances at club level or in the under 19s/21s etc.

We dont do that
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There's not been stand outs at under 21 or under 19 level that haven't been looked at. There are no up and coming world class players.

He can only pi55 with the caawk he's got. Unfortunately he's pi55ing on his hand and down his trousers. And on to his shoes.
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We dont need world class players, we just need a good team.

Northern Ireland qualified with Josh Magennis of Killie within their ranks.

We would not bat an eyelid at a player like that if he was Scottish.

We have good enough players, we just need to put faith in them.

Magennis made his debut 6 years ago at the age of 19 after he'd made just one start for Cardiff

This is the kind of stuff we don't do.

comment by Mr T - (U20754)

posted on 6/6/16

comment by Stevie - time for real change (U11028)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by MrT's Legitimate Son (U20754)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Stevie - time for real change (U11028)
posted 11 minutes ago
We should not be afraid to pitch young lads in if we think they are good enough.

If they are good enough, they should be playing, whether that be judged in performances at club level or in the under 19s/21s etc.

We dont do that
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There's not been stand outs at under 21 or under 19 level that haven't been looked at. There are no up and coming world class players.

He can only pi55 with the caawk he's got. Unfortunately he's pi55ing on his hand and down his trousers. And on to his shoes.
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We dont need world class players, we just need a good team.

Northern Ireland qualified with Josh Magennis of Killie within their ranks.

We would not bat an eyelid at a player like that if he was Scottish.

We have good enough players, we just need to put faith in them.

Magennis made his debut 6 years ago at the age of 19 after he'd made just one start for Cardiff

This is the kind of stuff we don't do.
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It's exactly what Berti Vogts did...remember exciting prospects like Scott Dobbie and Robbie Stockdale? Tried them out and they were gash and disappeared to lower league obscurity.

Northern Ireland don't have a world class player but they have a decent manager who can organise a team and p[lay to strenghts. Also - this is their first major tournament for 30 years so we shouldn't choose them as roles models.

Scotland have been stagnant for decades. Strachan can't change that for the current team so it's over to Brian McClair now to do something for the future. Strachan can only pick the players he thinks will get a result.

As for Josh Magennis going to the Euros, a good manager can make all the difference. Walter Smith got Scott Nisbet to within 90 minutes of the Champions League final and took Kirk Broadfoot all the way to the UEFA Cup Final. Unfortunately we don't have a good manager or even someone waiting in the wings to take over.

posted on 6/6/16

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posted on 6/6/16

Liked strachsn but he's a bit of a walking talking contradiction as Scotland manger

Not fussed if he stays or goes as its all about Rangers for me and don't support a national team ( other than who I've bet on )

comment by lauders (U9757)

posted on 6/6/16


JFK, Phillips smashed it in the prem

comment by lauders (U9757)

posted on 6/6/16

In fact I'm pretty sure he got the Golden boot playing for fvckin Sunderland

posted on 7/6/16

comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 16 hours, 28 minutes ago
phillips was always lethal in the championship, not so much in the prem

austin made the step up.

some detective you would have been if you can't figure that out btw.

guy lying there with a knife in him and u would be like "think he's been shot"
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worst wum attempt ever, has mick hacked your account?

Phillips won Golden Shoe in 99/00 an is the only Englishmen ever to do so,

posted on 12/6/16

Losers' mentality is the main problem with the home nations

comment by db (U5527)

posted on 13/6/16

Northern Ireland qualified with Josh Magennis of Killie within their ranks.
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People keep bringing this up but NI had a far far easier qualifying group. It wasn't even close to being as tough as ours. They had the worst Greek team in decades as their no 1 seed.

They also couldn't get near Poland who we drew with twice, and lead in both games.

And as mentioned above, it is a one off, they will likely not qualify for another 20-30 years.

Still though, Scotland are p@sh. I am starting worry about Strachan. After a great start to the job he's drifting into the usual Scotland manager territory of picking 2nd rate Englishmen and guys who don't play regularly.

He has far too much loyalty to no-hopers/has beens like Whittaker, Greer, Brown, S. Fletcher who consistently underperform.

The fact that anyone would play an out of position Whittaker at left back over Robertson, Shinnie, Wallace etc is pretty crazy. Not to mention Scott Brown who is completely wrecked and nowhere near the player was 2-3 years ago is still an automatic pick and captain. Despite Darren Fletcher and James McArthur being EPL regulars. Hell even McGinn and McLean looked better options in recent matches. Then there's Steven Fletcher, our supposed quality forward who's never scored more than 12 goals in a season, and has 8 in 28 caps, 6 against Gilbratar!! He's an automatic pick though!!??? The best football we played under Strachan was when he first took over and Fletcher was injured. As soon as he was shoe horned back in things started to fade. Perhaps the other squad members were starting get sick of favouritism. Oh aye, and he manages to squeeze in barely fit Charlie Mulgrew at any opportunity as well as he "knows what he's getting". Aye, we all do Gordon, a defender who can't defend and has no pace. A left footed Whittaker really.

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