Everton must be laughing straight to the bank with this one. Saw em coming a mile off no doubt.
Can get Wimmer for 4mill and Alderweireld for 11m..... or spunk 50m on Stones..... who cannot even get into the dreadful England team, and is a total liability on the ball at the back.
From spurs point of view, I hope Everton do not spend the cash wisely.... they are my dark horses for a serious top 4 challenge this season.... they have some very good players and finally have a manager with a clue.
Stones to City for 50m? haha !
posted on 28/7/16
We probably shouldn't laugh too loud. This all has s stupid knock on effect on players wages and financial structures of better run clubs.
Kane and Dier should have higher wages than Stones or Sterling. However under City I can guarantee their wages are exaggerated
posted on 28/7/16
comment by Ioavirgo (U10470)
posted 10 seconds ago
We probably shouldn't laugh too loud. This all has s stupid knock on effect on players wages and financial structures of better run clubs.
Kane and Dier should have higher wages than Stones or Sterling. However under City I can guarantee their wages are exaggerated
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yeah but they have to live in Manchester, which is like a reverse income.
balances itself out
posted on 28/7/16
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 25 minutes ago
John Stones is a top quality centre back. Dont be confused because Martinez served him up last season as the sacrificial lamb. Lumping pressure on a young player who then surprise surprise makes loads of mistakes.
Reminds me of Sergio Ramos not just playing right back and centre back but his style on the ball really cultured but can tackle with ease.
Half a season with Pep and Kompany, head shoulders knees john stones will be one of the top defenders in the league.
50 mill is 50 mill city always pay them fees, clubs expect that when they come knocking.
To be fair chronic comparing with wimmer aint right. Wimmer was 5th choice austria centre back and 4th choice Koln centre back. The price was a fair one given what had been shown.
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Dont buy this at all.
Stones has ability for sure, but aerially he's not that great. Position wise he's not that great, if it wasnt for the fact he's very comfortable on the ball he would not get in most teams
PLUS....to be a good player you need some intelligence. Make mistakes, sure! but learn from them. Cryuff turns in your own area, coughing up possession in/around your box trying to pass it out is foolish. Its not the fact he tries these things, its the fact he keeps getting it wrong.
Many many teams will high press this season. It is thus important for CBs to be able to pass the ball and build from the back. But it is equally as important for them to judge properly when to do this and when not to. Stones hasnt learnt this yet. He is just 22/23 so if he does have a brain he probably will learn, especially from Pep. But i still think his underlying defensive basics are not great., particularly in this league where CBs still need to have physical presence.
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I think his positioning is pretty sound to be fair, as his timing. All his stand out issues come from his decision making on the ball. And when you have Martinez as your coach, playing in an Everton side that is so open, it is only going to highlight it more. I don't think for a second he is worth 50 million, but he could be in a few years and that is what City are banking on.
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agreed on Martinez, he has never been able to organise a sound defence.
Re: Stones' positioning, I am mainly refering to his position at crosses. IMO he seems to get caugh to under the ball, letting players get in off the back of him.
In the Spanish league he'd be knock out, especially in someone like Barca who spend less time defending than most and all their players are comfortable on the ball. If Mascherano can make it as very successful CB then that says it all really. He could not do that in this league.
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posted on 28/7/16
comment by Komakino (U7809)
posted 3 hours, 7 minutes ago
Stones isn't worth £50M.
Kane isn't worth £60M.
Both are worth probably half these valuations, English player tax.
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Kane has scored 21 goals and 25 goals in 2 league seasons. There is no doubting his ability and what he can do. I'd say he is worth comfortably ore than £30m. Probably £40-45.
If he scores 20+ this season then he joins an elite of 6 who have scored +20 EPL goals 3 seasons on the trot. That puts him in very high company.
This season will tell a lot. another 20-25 goals, and a good showing in the UCL and he really will be in the £60m+ bracket.
Stones on the other hand has proved very little. So far its 80% potential and 20% delivery. Personally i think a season under Koeman would have been just what he needed before making the next step....now he goes to City with a massive price tag and a lot of pressure on his shoulders
posted on 28/7/16
£40m-45m that is
posted on 28/7/16
Another overpriced player if sold for 80m or more is Pogba! But Real Madrid might buy him and not Man Utd despite of all the speculation! Pogba would prefer to move there as they're in Champions League next season but Utd won't be.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11835/10513888/real-madrids-zinedine-zidane-quiet-on-paul-pogbas-potential-move
posted on 28/7/16
To be fair to Stones, he also spent last season playing alongside Funes Mori, who has a fair amount of headless chicken about him.
posted on 28/7/16
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 7 hours, 38 minutes ago
He needs out of Everton anyway, dreadful club, ground & fans .
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Ooooooh such bitterness NappyRash!
Here, have this.....
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/1/12/1326383011046/A-pint-of-bitter-in-a-non-007.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=78c755f0e00badd0b408b4d855ed9507
posted on 28/7/16
You can hardly laugh after wasting that bale money though lads!