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comment by Mike drop. (U15513)
posted 14 minutes ago
Get yoursen a tampon lass
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Is that a chat up line in Yorkshire?

It’s an interesting debate about whether teams like Leeds, Forest, and Sheffield Wednesday etc. can still be thought of as big clubs. Teams that have resided in the lower leagues for years, but their fans still insist: “yeah, but we’re a big club”.

There has surely got to be a point where past history starts to become irrelevant and the modern reality has to prevail. Will kids buying shirts today think that Leeds are a bigger club than Leicester City? Maybe not, as the “big club” label for Leeds is now more in the minds of the older generation. A better example might be Manchester City. If you’d asked me who is the bigger club out of MCFC and LUFC in the 1990’s I’d have probably said Leeds. Now I’d unquestionably say City and I reckon that nearly all non-Leeds fans would.

Personally I think that you can only ever talk about teams that are no longer in the Premier League in terms of their potential when saying how big they are: “Leeds are potentially a big club”. The problem is that when that “potential” remains unrealised for numerous years then the conversation becomes entirely rhetorical anyway.

It's a problem particularly relevant to Leeds and Forest fans - quite simply it's a case of complete denial. Because their fall from the top has been so quick, it still hasn't sunk in with these fans - in their heads they were in the prem only a couple of seasons ago.

As nice as im sure it is to have a glorious title filled history it really counts for very little now. The Premier League is now a global brand and the only place to be. The longer they rot in the Championhip the further behind they are being left.

Only so long you can dine out on past glories and Leeds/ Forest have certainly left the table.

As much as they would hate to admit it but Swansea and Bournemouth are more widely known these days.

Agreed - weren't Blackpool a 'big club' in the 1950s? What about Burnley who won the league twice I think pre-war. The point is who cares?

In the next 30 years there won't be many people alive who can remember Leeds lifting any trophy of any kind....

Tough pills to swallow.... No one likes to think of their Club as has beens.Did we, when we dropped to the third tier? You always live in hope and support your team.Always!!!!

You're perhaps forgetting that they won the League in 1992 BS and I, for one, am rather hoping that I'm still around in 30 years time.

Joby they've become so irrelevant id actually forgotten.....

Massive fall from the top and they haven't really come to terms with it. Which is why Leicester winning it is a bitter pill for them

comment by Jobyfox (U4183)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
It’s an interesting debate about whether teams like Leeds, Forest, and Sheffield Wednesday etc. can still be thought of as big clubs. Teams that have resided in the lower leagues for years, but their fans still insist: “yeah, but we’re a big club”.

There has surely got to be a point where past history starts to become irrelevant and the modern reality has to prevail. Will kids buying shirts today think that Leeds are a bigger club than Leicester City? Maybe not, as the “big club” label for Leeds is now more in the minds of the older generation. A better example might be Manchester City. If you’d asked me who is the bigger club out of MCFC and LUFC in the 1990’s I’d have probably said Leeds. Now I’d unquestionably say City and I reckon that nearly all non-Leeds fans would.

Personally I think that you can only ever talk about teams that are no longer in the Premier League in terms of their potential when saying how big they are: “Leeds are potentially a big club”. The problem is that when that “potential” remains unrealised for numerous years then the conversation becomes entirely rhetorical anyway.

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Yeah this is true, what actually does make a "big club"? Is it continued success? Global fans? Size of stadium and fanbase? Hard to quantify really.

As far as I'm concerned only United and Liverpool are "big clubs", City and Chelsea just have loads of money but throughout history neither have won a lot.