Anyone aware of this and is it really enforceable legally. I mean if you get a ticket and cannot go you can't even pass it on to family. The state of football today. The days of 10000 reds turning up and paying in have long gone but even the days of being able to pay over the odds to a tout seem to have gone too. Ridiculous. Authoritarian State where we are watched and not allowed to do anything.
From the Utd website:
Please take note of some important changes and reminders regarding our 2016/17 away games:
• Domestic away game applications are accepted from Executive Club Members, Silver, Gold and Platinum level Season Ticket holders (subject to payment for all home cup matches) and Official Members with accessible seating requirements.
• Executive Club Members are required to provide details of supporters using tickets for away games, within 48 hours of the ballot, as we need to be able to identify the end-users of away match tickets to ensure that the below checks can be undertaken. In the event this information is not provided, tickets for the game will be cancelled and reallocated.
• To ensure the fairest distribution of tickets, the Club will no longer permit a single payment card to be used on more than one away game application. Applications detected to have used the same payment card will automatically be made unsuccessful before each ballot is processed. To allow families to continue to apply together, we will increase the number of tickets per application from 4 to 6.
• If an away match ticket is transferred or found in the possession of another supporter, the Club will discontinue your ability to apply for away games. If a ticket is resold to another supporter your facilities will be cancelled without refund, and you will be banned from buying tickets and attending matches for a period of three years.
• Please remember that Away match tickets are non-transferable (passing to friends or family at face value, or free of charge is not permitted). All tickets ticket must be used by the registered holder. If you apply for an away game and unable to attend, please contact us to cancel and receive a refund for your match ticket, at least 24 hours before the game is due to be played.
• We will conduct match ticket validations at selected away grounds. Any supporter required to collect their match ticket, must collect in person at the nominated stadium, with photographic identification. Please do not apply for a game unless you are able to collect your ticket.
• Any supporters who cancel a ticket once they have been asked to collect will be required to collect their ticket for every subsequent game where they are successful in a ballot.
• Any supporters who are asked to collect, do not cancel, and then do not collect, will lose their right to apply for domestic away games for a minimum of 12 months.
Away Match going reds .....
posted on 17/8/16
comment by Better Call Zlatan - #Pogback (U11781)
posted 6 minutes ago
Question, can official members buy two home tickets or is it restricted to one ticket per member?
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Last time I heard it was one ticket per membership. That was a couple of years back, but unlikely to have changed.
posted on 17/8/16
One ticket per member but its easy to get tickets using other memberships for most home games.
Its just the away game tightening up or maybe its just words.
Been to 4 World cups and at each one they reckoned they would match the ticket with the person's ID entering the grounds but can you imagine how long that would take. Never happened yet and didn't happen at the Euros either . Got searched but had a hat on and not asked to remove that and at half time moved to better seats by just walking past some female stewards who made a half hearted attempt to stop me.
posted on 17/8/16
comment by The Cruyff Turn (U17867)
posted 40 seconds ago
One ticket per member but its easy to get tickets using other memberships for most home games.
Its just the away game tightening up or maybe its just words.
Been to 4 World cups and at each one they reckoned they would match the ticket with the person's ID entering the grounds but can you imagine how long that would take. Never happened yet and didn't happen at the Euros either . Got searched but had a hat on and not asked to remove that and at half time moved to better seats by just walking past some female stewards who made a half hearted attempt to stop me.
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I've seen someone get into a ground at a European away game, by flashing a flattened Cigarette box, masquerading as a ticket, at a Steward. No-one will police anything unless a trouble maker gets arrested with someone else's ticket in their possession.
posted on 17/8/16
I got in at the Rome final after buying a fake ticket that obviously didn't allow me through the scanner.
Eventually a small lad was let through a gate and I legged it after him shouting he was my son. Got in the ground and managed to find an empty seat.
Also got in the corporate tents after for free food and drink without the yellow wrist band !
Unfortunately we lost though !!
posted on 17/8/16
This is just covering their back for liability. They wont be over the top in enforcing it.
posted on 17/8/16
comment by Half a Big Bite - The Studge Don't Budge! (U7237)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
United fans are some of the worst behaved in the country. Especially away from home. It is no surprise the club are wanting to keep tabs on who is attending matches.
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Do you really want to go there and start talking about which club keeps getting fined by UEFA?
posted on 17/8/16
comment by EM (U4638)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
Having owned a season ticket for 12 years and having tried for THREE consecutive seasons (between 08-11) to get an away game, after that I got so annoyed I just didn't bother anymore.
I think this is actually not as bad as you're making it out to be.
At the end of the day, whatever policy is in place, someone will lose out, for years its actually been people like me, who go to OT every game, and in the past applied for EVERY away game and get nothing, at the same time, executives used to get their away matches every game, and sell them to their tom/dick/harry mates who dont even go to OT. You also get people selling tickets outside the ground, again to non season ticket holders.
A guy who used to sit behind me went to every away game, not from his own ticket, but through networking and 'knowing people'... he said a whole minibus of them every week managed to get tickets, it wasn't illegal what they were doing, they just knew people *executives* who could get tickets and give them away.
And like other people have said, I hardly think they'd enforce it, and as I understand, they only do ticket checks by asking the fan to pick the ticket up, so if your ticket is posted then it seems you'd be fine.
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Completely agree.
Been a season ticket holder for over 20 years and can't get anything through the ballot at all.
Used to have an awesome tout who is no longer in business as he was threatened with prison if he didn't stop.
Already been rejected for Bournemouth and Watford this season, literally may just give up applying. There really is no point when no one at these matches seems to get their tickets legitimately through the ballot in the first place. Ridiculous.
posted on 17/8/16
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Secure through obfustication. (U1270)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Half a Big Bite - The Studge Don't Budge! (U7237)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
United fans are some of the worst behaved in the country. Especially away from home. It is no surprise the club are wanting to keep tabs on who is attending matches.
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Do you really want to go there and start talking about which club keeps getting fined by UEFA?
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No, because that has no relevance to this subject whatsoever.
posted on 17/8/16
The concessionary season tickets where you get a big discount for being over 65 have a a big red mark on the corner because you could get your grand dad to buy one and go in his place. But nobody has ever bothered to check his season ticket when he goes in. When he can't make it and someone younger goes in his place I've always used his ST but with my thumb over the corner but nobody has ever bothered to check or ask or anything. When there's about 5,000 people pushing you through the turnstyle who's going to be the brave spotty teenage, minimum wage earning steward to hold everyone up?
posted on 17/8/16
comment by Ronaldo McDonaldo 2 (U8472)
posted 18 minutes ago
The concessionary season tickets where you get a big discount for being over 65 have a a big red mark on the corner because you could get your grand dad to buy one and go in his place. But nobody has ever bothered to check his season ticket when he goes in. When he can't make it and someone younger goes in his place I've always used his ST but with my thumb over the corner but nobody has ever bothered to check or ask or anything. When there's about 5,000 people pushing you through the turnstyle who's going to be the brave spotty teenage, minimum wage earning steward to hold everyone up?
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Don't know how this works at Old Trafford but at Eastlands I think there are different coloured lights that light up based on the type of season ticket, e.g. blue for a concession, green for a normal one.
I've seen people stopped and turned away several times for using a child's or OAPs Season Ticket
It all depends on how the Stewarding manage the queues/crowds and how easy it is to get through the turnstile and away.