A popular retweet about this particular rumour is any Chelsea Fan that questions the wisdom in spending 75m on Rodrguez is a fool because
"if it's good enough for the Manager who has overseen 11 straight league wins then who are we to question the deal?"
Well sorry, but if we spent this money on a guy who cannot hold down a position in his current team, when all players are fit, I would feel Chelsea have just made themselves "mugs" in the market.
Loan with an option to buy? Fair enough, but I feel we would be getting seriously ripped off on a guy who i feel has not done anything yet to merit the fee.
Even if most of that fee is paid by an Oscar transfer to China.
The James Rodriguez rumours.
posted on 21/12/16
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
A player is only worth whatever someone is willing to pay for him.
Whether they justify that fee is another matter. But you're kidding yourself if you think Chelsea would turn round and say to Oscar, actually we know you're happy to go to China and take the money, but Juve have bid 20m you should go there.
The more and more money China throw at the game, the more it will have an impact on the value of players around the global market.
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You are are missing the point. Only China value him at 50m.
No other country does....therefore China is not the real market, it is a uniquely distorted market.
Oscar's worth in any other market othet than China is between 20m and 30m
posted on 21/12/16
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago
A player is only worth whatever someone is willing to pay for him.
Whether they justify that fee is another matter. But you're kidding yourself if you think Chelsea would turn round and say to Oscar, actually we know you're happy to go to China and take the money, but Juve have bid 20m you should go there.
The more and more money China throw at the game, the more it will have an impact on the value of players around the global market.
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No it won't for many reasons.
posted on 21/12/16
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 2 hours, 41 minutes ago
China aren't distorting the market anyway. The premier league, PSG and the big Spanish clubs are the ones that have already done that. They're just joining the party.
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I refer to my previous point his value to the Chinese is far greater than to any other country, hence the price distortion.
It is quite simple economics. If there are 10 countries and 9 of them have an abundance of water and one country has none, then the price importing water to the country with none is going to be so much higher than the price of exporting water to the other countries who already have loads of water one of water.
posted on 21/12/16
Yeah but the premier league isn't short of water. And neither are Real Madrid, which is why when they sell talented but unwanted players they get top wack for them. See Ozil and Di Maria, two premier league club's record signings at the time.
posted on 22/12/16
No need to worry, The Current bun said so!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/2456510/james-rodriguez-transfer-chelsea-real-madrid/
Why do I feel nervous now!
posted on 22/12/16
I don't understand the nervousness, Brummie, to be honest. Yeah the price is a lot, but it is what it is, surely as a Chelsea fan you must be used to spending big on players that may or may not work out?
I think he's a fantastic player personally. I understand the talk of him not fitting in the current system with you having Pedro and Willian working hard and running on the outside, however, it's also worth considering the goals and creativity he brings that this area is lacking - especially if you aren't going to play creative players in the middle.
posted on 22/12/16
comment by Zlatan The King Ibrahimovic (U10026)
posted 8 hours, 55 minutes ago
China aren't distorting the market anyway. The premier league, PSG and the big Spanish clubs are the ones that have already done that. They're just joining the party.
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But they are distorting it in the same way that globalisation caused that in the first place. Foreign ownership, global tv deals etc.
China bidding big will obviously have an impact on the clubs wanting those same players and how clubs value players. Be them Russian, Turkish, American, Ukranian, European, whatever
The more China continues to go big, the more it will distort the market. And by the looks of it they're going to continue to go big
posted on 22/12/16
That may be, but I think we are yet to see the impact. Because in my opinion, it's the clubs mentioned above that are having a bigger impact and they're just new to the party, which is exactly why they're coming in with such big cash because they need to to compete.
I also don't think it'll have that big an effect on the very biggest and richest clubs trading in Europe, because generally they'll be trading the very best who still want to remain in here, so China cannot dictate the price.
posted on 22/12/16
There are so many more aspects to consider...
Language, culture, time zone, uprooting family, politics, human rights, climate, quality of league,
I could go and work in Dubai tomorrow and double my salary overnight....but i don't want to live in Dubai
Plenty of players will come under this category...
posted on 22/12/16
Darren, the world cup apart I haven't seen too much of him, however a player who RM paid £75m for I would expect to be able to get into even a RM team.
The fact that he can't makes me question whether RM grossly overpaid for him and I don't want to see us bailing them out of their transfer mistakes - we make enough of our own!!