Fight

Total mismatch. This is what makes for PPV these days?

Shocking.

I can see Bellew getting up twice before being hospitalised.

comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 14 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
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comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
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comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 45 minutes ago
Tyson was smaller than Haye but was heavy weight...? So why isn't haye a proper heavy weight?
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He actually weighed more than Haye. Also the physics of punching up is more powerful than down plus you're more likely to spin the head. Coupled with ridiculous power from his thighs and core plus a low centre of gravity Tyson was the perfect fighter.
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He wasn't. His main weakness was he struggled against an effective jab. Douglas gave the blueprint on how to beat Tyson - don't be scared of him for a start, most of his opponents were beaten before the first bell. Keep him at range with a strong jab, not just a range finder, this allows you to time him coming in and either tie him up or catch him on the way in. Tyson would've struggled against Bowe, and a prime Lennox Lewis or Larry Holmes would've beaten him 9 times out of 10.
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I take your point Ace but I'm not sure you can just definitely say 9 out of 10. As much as he has a weakness it also have him a huge advantage on the inside no? I can accept you know more though! Either way I was talking about the physique of it. If Tyson was so mental who knows what he could of achieved. He had great footwork Ace and fighters often get better and I think he would have beaten Lewis personally. I'm too you to remember Holmes in his prime.
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It's not about knowing more mate, I can't stand boxing snobs who deride people who aren't students of the sport as casuals and all that bollox. It's something we'll never know for sure so it just boils down to opinions, mine is no more valid than yours.

Tyson was a great fighter, explosive, powerful with great footwork and head movement. I always question the calibre of opponent he fought on his way up, and the fact that he let a bang average fighter like Douglas beat him from pillar to post when in his pre prison prime. When I watch Tyson I just think it's evident that there are certain things he struggles with, mainly the strong jab. He was explosive inside early in fights, but as per Douglas if they utilise the jab to time his attacks he can be tied up on the inside and worn down, a reason why I really think he'd struggle with bigger heavier men with good jabs. Lewis was also a man absolutely devastating puncher and I honestly think the best version of him would lay a peak Tyson out cold after timing him, jabbing him and frustrating him for round after round.

I'm too young for Holmes too, but got into him from studying the careers of the more popular 70's heavies like Ali, Foreman and Frasier. Have a watch of his fight vs Ken Norton, it's an absolute classic. Also, if you're interested in broadening your knowledge, there's a website called boxingcareerdvds.com, they sell good value DVDs of fighters careers, as well as all the classic trilogies. I've got a whole library in my loft from them!
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When Lewis did eventually fight Tyson he actually beat him by leading with uppercuts as Tyson tried to bull his way through to the inside. Not so sure he would have done the same had his original trainer still been alive (can't remember his name but he was like a father figure to Tyson).

In his younger years his head movement was much better so a solid jab wasn't as effective as it was in his later years - even before he went to prison. ESPN have done some really good docu's on him and despite what happened he was still phenomenal.

5h1t fight. Haye is leagues above Bellow. Haye is good at using the public's lack of boxing knowledge to hype up poor opponents into credible ones (ie. Audley).
Bellow lost to feather-fisted LHW in Cleverly. He's totally out of his depth here.

Unfortunately this will be a walkover for Haye.

Just listening to him on Talksport, he is one horrible human being.

Yeah, Haye is a grade-A pr!ck. Surprised he still has any fans.

Can't stand haye

But listening to Tony bellends voice when he repeats himself makes me team haye.

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Hate hasn't already sewn a seed of his excuse.....

Just as Klopp did with not having a winter break.

I'd be surprised if it was competitive at all, and they're both just building the hype up to sell PPVs and clearly it's working very well. Haye won't care what the country thinks of him if it gets him a few more million.