Jimmy Greaves

"Anyway, what does this all have to do with the fact Greaves scored 1 goal in 7 tournament games and got well outshined by Geoff Hurst?"

And what has that particular stat got to do with this article?

Your competitive era comment is rose-tinted rubbish. Real Madrid won 5 consecutive CL titles in late 50's to early 60's football. No team have even managed 2 consecutively in almost 3 decades. That English football had no great teams in the era doesn't make it some great mark of competitiveness. Greaves moved to the best team in England and won little of consequence. These days, that will earn you a fair bit of derision.

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Again you show your ignorance and lack of knowledge.

Greaves won 2 FA Cups with Spurs, when the FA Cup was an important trophy to win.

He also played in the 1963 European Cup Winners Final in Rotterdam and scored as Spurs became the FIRST British club to win a major European trophy.

As for Real Madrid winning five European Cups on the bounce, they had an amazing team then but the competition was a straightforward knockout then, unlike the convulsed competition it is now.

Admit it Sheriff, you just cannot bear to admit that Spurs have had the greatest British striker and also one of the World's greatest strikers ever on their books.

Credit to Chelsea too, who Greaves started his career with

Bitterness is a very sad attribute to have, you seem to have it bucketloads.

You comment that it was one dribble v United, no it wasn't, Greaves was sublime and could lose a player by a little feint and whoooosh, he was gone and the ball was in the net.

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I didn't ever see Greaves play...

However I've seen Messi play and therefore witnessed him ascend to the top of the game at the age of just 22 when he won the ballon d'or for the first time, and be hailed as the greatest ever at the age of 23

The throne is his
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There is no throne, the article is about a goal scoring record.
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Hence why I mentioned a prolific goalscorer

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Currently not as prolific as Greaves or his contemporary Ronaldo, why no mention of him?
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http://messivsronaldo.net/all-time-stats/

I said he won little of consequence, not nothing of consequence.
And hype the FA Cup all you want, it has never and will never measure up to the league.

Your Real Madrid point is a weird one. The fact it was a straight knockout is even better reason why it's bizarre for a team to win it 5 times on the trot. League dominance is much more common than cup dominance because shocks are decisive in cups. I also only brought it up, coz Sandy decided to regale us with the myth of how fiercely competitive that era of football was.

And I have nothing against Spurs having the greatest British striker or whatever. I have problems with silly embellishments like comparisons with Messi.

Comparisons with a player you never saw play !!!! Comparisons with scoring records nothing else.
Lucky for Messi that Greaves didn't hve to play all that crap Spanih cannon fodder every week.

He just got to play crap English cannon fodder instead.

comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 hours, 57 minutes ago
I feel I have to come on board on this article. Having watched pretty well the whole of Jimmy Greaves career both for Chelsea and Spurs I can assure Sheriff he is talking uut of his arris as per usual. No player holds the European league goalscoring record for over 50 years without being considered one of the all time greats.

Greaves could dribble for fun. Problem is most of his goals are not on film as Messi`s are. I can remember being at Stamford Bridge when Chelsea beat Wolves late 1950s, when he went past half a dozen players with ease to score. Greaves regularly beat three or four players to score goals for both club and country. He was simply the greatest ever British goalscorer and deserves to be placed up alongside Messi and all the other greats of whatever era.

Greaves also played in a far more competitive era. During his footballing career, late 50s to early 70s, 10 different teams won the league and 14 different teams won the FA cup in England. Compare that to the Messi era where he has basically been playing in a two team league for the whole of his Barcelona Career. How many games in the UK do you get games ending 8-0, 7-0, 6-0, yet they are commonplace in the modern La Liga, such is the non competitiveness of the league.

Both are great players in different era, and deserve the respect they rightfully get. We don`t need posters like Sheriff, who obviously has only seen one of them play poo pooing one of the all time great British players.
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Maybe I could get to like Sandy after all!!

Steady on Brummie