Paul Pogba

It's a point about a broader symptom of society. Some people get very defensive when race is brought up but I think people are very naive if they don't think some people have problems with young black people with money and judge them a bit differently.
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Could this be any flakier?

So some people, somewhere, may, seemingly, be a bit racist.

Yeah probably but I'm not sure that's how this conversation started.

People are more interested in disproving any potential racism than they are actually looking at the route of the problem.

I still see no evidence against Sterling.

Some of the things Pogba has been criticised is outragesouly personal and very culturally innapropriate. I commend Robb for actually holding a non-Western Media Whitewashed P.O.V.

I still see no evidence against Sterling.
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Evidence of what? Just so you know I was a massive supporter of Sterling and had no problem with him leaving.

Can't remember who I had the discussion with

Do you mean evidence of why Sterling got grief?

Is so I think I know why.

Plucked as a teenager from the obscurities of lower league football Raheem Sterling was given his chance and developed into an international footballer by LFC football club.

During this time he was arrested for beating up his girlfirend, had multiple children with multiple partners and was caught smoking.

He entered contract negotiations with LFC which became protracted all the while not making a commitment despite the club making various improved offers far above a normal payscale for his achievements on the field having stood by him during various misdemeanors and giving him his chance in the first place.

There then followed an acrimonious relationship with his manager and he left for money.

People don't like women beating, smoking contract rebels who turn their back on the club that made them as a rule.

Same reason people don't like cocaine jack smoking, drinking and fighting outside night clubs having achieved fvck all in the game.

If you're going to be a flash cvnt, or even just a bit of a cvnt, you better produce the good on the pitch.

Pogba sauntering around promoting an emoji before a match, all the while seemingly more interested in his image than the game, that he play rammal in as the most expensive player in the world will lead to criticism.

I can't imagine MrAF taking too kindly to it either really but maybe he's a bit racist too.

So the accusations of racism continue....and still no evidence to support any of them...

comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Robb still talking chit as usual. There is literally not one shred of evidence to back up his crap about racism here. Will that deter him? Of course not. He is still going on about his pet theory, based on nothing. And all because he knows that there is no defending Pogba on this occasion because he was lousy.

Why is nobody slating Rashford or Martial if people have a problem with young black players with money? Both have been underwhelming this season and yet they have, for the most part, escaped any major criticism.

Also, which other United players does Robb feel have been criticised harshly due to the colour of their skin? Surely he must have a long list of players to back up his theory?

And no doubt he has a solid explanation for why the least popular players in our squad are all white?.

Basically, Robb knows that he can't defend Pogba on this occasion so he attacks everyone criticising him with an accusation of racism. It is hard to stoop much lower than that.

Personally, I think Pogba has been criticised harshly this season, and I have always said so. However, recently he has been poor and the fans have every right to point that out without being accused of racism.
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I was just about to write a post about Martial, Rashford etc. but you seem to have covered most of what I was about to say. What I would add is that if Pogba is overly judged by some, it in my opinion more to do with how he conducts himself. He seems to be at least as worried about his image as he is about football. That doesn't always sit well with football fans - especially when the player in question isn't performing as well as he might. That isn't anything to do with the colour of his skin.

comment by Edinfam (U1109)
posted 51 minutes ago


Some of the things Pogba has been criticised is outragesouly personal and very culturally innapropriate.
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Please provide examples.

comment by Robbing_Hoody (U6374)
posted 37 minutes ago
Do you mean evidence of why Sterling got grief?

Is so I think I know why.

Plucked as a teenager from the obscurities of lower league football Raheem Sterling was given his chance and developed into an international footballer by LFC football club.

During this time he was arrested for beating up his girlfirend, had multiple children with multiple partners and was caught smoking.

He entered contract negotiations with LFC which became protracted all the while not making a commitment despite the club making various improved offers far above a normal payscale for his achievements on the field having stood by him during various misdemeanors and giving him his chance in the first place.

There then followed an acrimonious relationship with his manager and he left for money.

People don't like women beating, smoking contract rebels who turn their back on the club that made them as a rule.

Same reason people don't like cocaine jack smoking, drinking and fighting outside night clubs having achieved fvck all in the game.

If you're going to be a flash cvnt, or even just a bit of a cvnt, you better produce the good on the pitch.

Pogba sauntering around promoting an emoji before a match, all the while seemingly more interested in his image than the game, that he play rammal in as the most expensive player in the world will lead to criticism.

I can't imagine MrAF taking too kindly to it either really but maybe he's a bit racist too.
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comment by Robb Mkhitaryan (U21234)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by redmisty (U7556)
posted 14 minutes ago
Robb still talking chit as usual. There is literally not one shred of evidence to back up his crap about racism here. Will that deter him? Of course not. He is still going on about his pet theory, based on nothing. And all because he knows that there is no defending Pogba on this occasion because he was lousy.

Why is nobody slating Rashford or Martial if people have a problem with young black players with money? Both have been underwhelming this season and yet they have, for the most part, escaped any major criticism.

Also, which other United players does Robb feel have been criticised harshly due to the colour of their skin? Surely he must have a long list of players to back up his theory?

And no doubt he has a solid explanation for why the least popular players in our squad are all white?.

Basically, Robb knows that he can't defend Pogba on this occasion so he attacks everyone criticising him with an accusation of racism. It is hard to stoop much lower than that.

Personally, I think Pogba has been criticised harshly this season, and I have always said so. However, recently he has been poor and the fans have every right to point that out without being accused of racism.

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Once again, someone missing the point

It's really not about Pogba playing badly. I'll be the first to admit he was shocking on saturday. My player ratings say as much

It's more about people seemingly wanting him to fail.
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I don't know a single United fan that wants him to fail. Why would they? But most I knew said that Pogba wasn't worth the money and that is now (so far) being shown with his performances. Sure there is an element of the I told you so's going on, but why wouldn't they discuss the fact that he isn't quite reaching the levels we'd hoped?