Referees

giving a red card for an unclear incident id dishonest!!

I fear the present, up-and-coming and future generations of footballer supporters will allay to more changes that will not go down well with the 'traditional' fan. I've found older people don't like change in general and, much as many of them will disagree with this 'tinkering' of the game, those people will not, eventually, be attendees at matches in years to come whether it's by virtue of age, cost or whatever. That leaves the new breed to digest the changes forced upon them and I have this feeling many will accept it as a 'brave new world' within the sport and see it as moving forward.

Goal-line technology, yes, I'm in agreement that it is essential as so much rests on a decision seen as being correct. Sin-bins, no for goodness' sake.This will be accompanied by the Wurlitzer over the public address system decreeing who's been a bad boy and who the hero on the day and we will move more and more away from football as we know it.

I thought it was bad enough when they introduced a single vocal female/male trying to howl the National Anthem at FA Cup Finals and the demise of the brass band now confirmed. What an earth has it all come to.

What Mr. Belmonty says is precisely my concern, Mersey. And I don't think we'd be able to get the lid back on the box. Video refs in rugby ruin the pace of the game and can even annoy the on-field refs with how pedantic they get to justify their presence. And that's in a game that has time-outs and is stop start. In football they would be even more pronounced.

Mistakes, even bad, match-deciding ones, can happen in the current system, granted. But I'm convinced that flawed system is better than the alternative. I fear people will only see it once it's too late.

Whilst most of the views on this thread are eminently valid, my own view is that the introduction of video technology would be aimed primarily at the question of is it a penalty or not. Given the often lengthy delay whilst defenders vainly argue the toss with the officials it is debatable whether the time taken to view an incident would actually shorten the process.
Unfortunately, whilst players continue to cheat by diving to the floor at the drop of a hat, there appears to be little alternative. Personally, I would like to see cheats given an instant red card with an automatic 5 match ban which would double to 10 for a second offence during the course of a season. You can be fairly sure that the practice of cheating would either (a) reduce significantly or (b) go to a much higher level where the player concerned would automatically qualify for an Equity card.

Well they'd just need to be stronger and realise that red cards and penalties are the only thing that require some kind of assistance. Nothing else needs to be changed but something does need to be done to prevent games being won and lost because of a refs howler. I don't see any reason at all for that technology to used to improve any other part of the game.

comment by Champions of England (U21032)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well they'd just need to be stronger and realise that red cards and penalties are the only thing that require some kind of assistance. Nothing else needs to be changed but something does need to be done to prevent games being won and lost because of a refs howler. I don't see any reason at all for that technology to used to improve any other part of the game.
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What about offsides?

Goals too?

Regarding diving, I would not have the referees penalise this on the pitch but enforce a 3-match ban afterwards or perhaps a fine of a week's wages for each incident. Definitely needs harsher punishment, but getting the refs to decide in a split second at potentially a bad angle isn't right. Let them focus on whether it is definitely a foul or not. (i.e. Dive, fair challenge or not sure.)

The problem with diving is that it's often too subjective. For every one blatant, no contact swan dive, there are probably 20 where you could argue either way.

Leaving your leg in becomes an absolute minefield.

Blantant dives are pretty obvious though and imcould be punished following games. I just don't think there are that many of them.

For example. A player drags his leg "expecting contact" but the defender does well to pull out and no contact. Player goes down due to momentum but doesn't claim a penalty. 3 game ban?

Harsh!

The problem with diving is that it's often too subjective.

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thats my worry with video tech going forward. Clearing up calls that are black and white, such as offside is grand. But having another set of eyes look at a subjective call is where it gets difficult.

I am sure we could find a penalty given or not, from the weekend that no matter how many times reviewed we won't all agree on, because of that subjective nature of the call.

comment by Manfrombelmonty (U1705)
posted 6 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by Champions of England (U21032)
posted 3 minutes ago
Well they'd just need to be stronger and realise that red cards and penalties are the only thing that require some kind of assistance. Nothing else needs to be changed but something does need to be done to prevent games being won and lost because of a refs howler. I don't see any reason at all for that technology to used to improve any other part of the game.
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What about offsides?

Goals too?
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Erm nah, although linos get them wrong at times, the problem isn't as bad as red cards and penos