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Yeah I get that which is why I'm happy we won it but I still feel that a club like United will have reaching the CL and doing well in it as of greater importance than winning the League Cup.

It's all relative though, Jose often likes to win the League Cup when he starts jobs as I imagine it helps breed a winning mentality while not being the hardest thing to win. Sooner rather than later though a club our side should be thinking about first getting into the CL and then doing well in it. That along with fighting for the PL title should be the aims for United. Although obviously not straight away as the club have been in a mess since Ferguson left but it should still be our goal in the very near future.

Next season I couldn't really care about the League Cup TBH.

This will be a big off season for Jose. He has to get it right in the market.

And he has to manage the squad much better.

Zlatan if he is still here and Pogba do not have to play every game.

Next season is huge for Jose, he has often stated he knows players far better after a season and with another transfer window he really needs to get us improving and genuinely being a title contender.

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 5 minutes ago
Next season is huge for Jose, he has often stated he knows players far better after a season and with another transfer window he really needs to get us improving and genuinely being a title contender.
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I think we all agree on that.

He will know more than anyone just what weaknesses this squad has and will likely sort them.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
For me, any trophy is better than top 4. I'm a fan, not an accountant.
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As a fan, I felt better after beating Barcelona than I did after beating Liverpool last year. Fa cup would be close.

It's relative surely. You felt great because it was a relatively new experience for your club (not trying to take the p-ss). For United fans I think the group stages of the CL became pretty monotonous in recent years and the games were largely dull. That was also due to the fact we were top seeds so never got big teams in our groups.

Being spoilt for so many years probably lessened certain achievements and I think because we've been so bad the past 3-4 years maybe we are missing it again.

Yes but winning a cup is also a relatively new experience too

The day of a final, absolutely it's great. It's more that once the day has gone that it's won, I don't particularly care unless the game was good and memorable (or the run to get to it).

I think it's more that different fanbases have different outlooks though. If you're not used to winning things often and over a long period, once you have that first win, you are less bothered about how often that repeats itself as it wasn't something that was craved before anyway.

Some of your fan base, I think, would struggle to get enjoyment without a trophy as it's so entwined in what they view as success.

Top sides prefer to play Barcelona over Brentford. So top 4 is more important to tbem

Being spoilt for so many years probably lessened certain achievements
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Win fatigue had blighted Manchester United for a number of years in the latter half of Fergie's reign. Especially for fans who attend regularly, it numbed the whole match day experience especially for the perceived 'lesser' games ie. bottom half PL games, group games in CL and domestic cup matches until the latter stages which turned OT into a library most of the time. The difference in attitude of United fans on away days is massive.

What the pigs ear that MUFC have made of replacing Fergie with a couple of clowns and now a loose cannon of managers over the last 5 years has shown to United fans is how difficult creating a winning mentality at a football club really is. Despite how much money you have.