Live Election 2017 Thread

Absolutely agree with that Rosso.

comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 10 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 9 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by rossobianchi (U17054)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 15 minutes ago
Depends on the reason for the protest really.
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Not for me it doesn't, melts.

Two of the key principles of democracy are the active engagement of the people with and in politics and civic life, and the protection of the fundamental human rights of all citizens, including the principles of the freedoms of speech, assembly and political protest.

They're central pillars of the system and required to maintain it.
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I'm not arguing peoples right to protest, I was arguing more about the logic of protesting this particular point on grounds of hypocrisy.

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Arguing whether a protest supports a worthwhile cause or is underpinned by a sound argument is fair enough, of course

But people must be absolutely entitled to protest about whatever they want (provided they are acting within the bounds of the law and aren't inciting hatred, violence or other criminal acts, obviously).

And, in principle, they are perfectly entitled to call for the dissolution of an incumbent democratically-elected Government on the grounds of their actions or policy.
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Especially one (gov) that has pretty much ignored entire demographics, (disadvantaged, disabled, public sector, etc etc) in favour of benefiting/pandering to the privileged.

And that's fine, but still not what I was arguing. I have no problem with people protesting against a government. The "depends" that I said was referring to whether the protest was around the right of the government to be formed.

They are and should be allowed to protest it, I would find it hypocritical and slightly stupid if they did though.

I believe McDonnell has since clarified the position though.

In regard to the formation of the government (assume you are referring to the pact with the DUP?) I can understand why (including many Tories) were unhappy.

Thoughts on the DUP aside, to ‘form’ a government the Tories had to abandon many of the policies they campaigned on.

The manifesto the Tories asked the electorate to hold them accountable to, now pretty much in the bin.

No, I think protesting the fact the Tories have aligned with the DUP is absolutely fine (id be tempted to join it personally) and I believe that's what it now is.

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comment by Ricky Spanish (U21430)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 6 hours, 10 minutes ago
No, I think protesting the fact the Tories have aligned with the DUP is absolutely fine (id be tempted to join it personally) and I believe that's what it now is.
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Too right.
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You go girl😁

I read your little post citing an Irish News article on a chance meeting between Arlene Foster and J McDonald whlist the Dup were canvassing Taughmonagh.You lied about that being proof of DUP support for their, "friends"in the uda.
Corbyn admitted to supporting pira, but the DUP and UUP do not support the uda or uvf.

Everyday Foster meets with pira and SF members,,so does she back pira, or have ra links?..you silly little propagandist.

The murder you used to spin a uda and DUP coalition is centred one mile from my house in Carrick, and is more to do with personality, wives and girlfriends fighting, drugs and a turf war.Mainstream and breakaway groups in South East Antrim are feuding, and nothing to do with the dup, politics or ideology.
Frankly, this S E Antrim feud is nothing to do with loyalism, but if it helps to use death to smear the DUP, fill her boots

Over to you.

Not so easy when your card is marked by someone who knows more about the subject, eh lad👍

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