Gervinho

What do you expect him to do to be fair? He never had any support when he got on the ball. Maybe he could have held up play but I like how he is direct and how he isn't afraid to take defenders on.

Some Arsenal fans are never happy, if we take the safe option and play tippy tappy safe possession football then it is too predictable yet when we have guys willing to run at defenders and take people on we are too wasteful. What do they want?

Yes, but they put 3 or 4 players around him every tme he got the ball so couldnt do a lot. I'd still like to see him have a plan b - pass early.

comment by The Adventures Of Batmanu Eboué & Robin Van Persie - #DownWithKamran (U2725)

'Some Arsenal fans are never happy, if we take the safe option and play tippy tappy safe possession football then it is too predictable yet when we have guys willing to run at defenders and take people on we are too wasteful. What do they want?'

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Good question, but it's not one a true supporter should ever have to be asked.

A football supporter shouldn't 'want' anything from their team - that's the sense of spoiled, childish, petulant entitlement and expectation success will bring.

Unfortunately in some ways, Wenger's success has bred a host of these imbeciles who now call themselves 'fans'.

They aren't. They don't support the team because of what the team does in the local area, because of it's history, it's non-football work.

No, they give what passes for support in exchange for what they consider to be success, and whine like b!tches if they don't get it.

Pathetic behaviour, pathetic 'support', pathetic human beings.

Good question, but it's not one a true supporter should ever have to be asked.

A football supporter shouldn't 'want' anything from their team - that's the sense of spoiled, childish, petulant entitlement and expectation success will bring.

Unfortunately in some ways, Wenger's success has bred a host of these imbeciles who now call themselves 'fans'.

They aren't. They don't support the team because of what the team does in the local area, because of it's history, it's non-football work.

No, they give what passes for support in exchange for what they consider to be success, and whine like b!tches if they don't get it.

Pathetic behaviour, pathetic 'support', pathetic human beings.
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BULL SH**

The way you describe it we shouldnt "want" the team to do well. Some fans eh?

comment by Wenger Vs Hat lady (U3815)

Really?

Well I happen to disagree, and I can summon a slightly better argument than the unsupported one word one you just did.

I'm sick to death with the sense of entitlement from people who call themselves 'fans' but have never been anywhere near the club either physically or spiritually.

It's the whining nonsense of petulant supporters that all too often creates problems for clubs, gets managers the sack too early, sees far more money than is affordable spent on transfers or wages or both.

It's the promises to these same 'supporters' that sees incompetent undesiribles in the game like Peter Ridsdale. Fools and cheats like this then make money out of poor sods who actually do support the club, often ruining it in the process. The club almost never prospers.

A little less of a sense of entitlement from some supporters, a little less expectation and guess what?

A few more clubs might not go under, usually taking local businesses with them.

Do you get it now? Or is it still too complicated?

Sense of entitlement? the fans that get angry and raise complaints are usually the ones that care most about the club and want most for the club to succeed

comment by Wenger Vs Hat lady (U3815)

That may be true in a simplistic sense. But it's also true that these same 'fans' are the most ignorant on how the club gets by, how it pays it's bills and what it does off the field.

I have no problem with wanting a team to do well - I always want mine to do so, whoever they're playing.

But something's wrong when there's buckets of criticism after a good result, just the same as when there's criticism of a club for not spending hundreds of millions on these players or those.

That's where the problem lies, in supporters of certain clubs thinking they're being stiffed if they aren't spending more than the club can afford in an effort to shut up a usually vocal minority.

That's what leads to more problems or the liklihood of more problems. I never want to see a business go under because Arsenal FC can't pay it's bills, but they're all over the place in other parts of the UK.

That's an outcome that's wrong, and it has much of it's roots in an unrealistic sense of entitlement expressed by ignorant children who just want to play the big 'I am' down the pub or at the water cooler at work.

Theres critisism after the good result because it does not really seem a significant step forward. Dortmand looked the better team for most of the game, and fans are rightly disgruntled that the team has taken a big step backwards from last season, despite having enough money from player sales to impove on the likes of gervinho, arteta and benayoon

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