Morning petrol heads, I hope you are well. Looking at the points swing in the championship over the last 3 races with Seb losing his head once again, one has to wonder why he gets so flustered and makes these mistakes.
Even in his all conquering RedBull days, once he was in a "race" and not just racing himself, he seemed to lose it, chuck it down the road or crash into someone. Alternatively he loses the plot if someone runs into him
Last season we saw this multiple times including telling Charlie Whiting to Bleep Off.
We know all drivers moan, so this is not about moaning but about how the red mist descends and he loses control. This may have cost him the championship with his move in Singapore.
That damage incurred in Singapore may result in him taking new components for the Power Unit or Gear box which may add more penalties for him.
Think it is the one chink in his armour and is something his rivals will take note of and I especially think Verstappen knows he gets under his skin. With the races coming up, the RedBulls will certainly play a role in Suzuka, Brazil, maybe Malaysia and Abu Dhabi.
Hamilton during his younger F1 days used to have "moments" but never seemed to lose it. Alonso has on occasion but has managed to stay focused and deliver.
So was wondering what you guys thought, is Seb his own worst enemy?
Your thoughts please
Sebastian Vettel - Temperament
posted on 25/9/17
This is something I picked up on ages ago.
During his Red Bull days, everyone was waxing lyrical about how Vettel is this amazing driver whose always in control and never loses his cool and is absolutely the greatest driver of his generation.
The thing that's always bugged me about this is that it's only true when Vettel is in a car that's 2 seconds a lap faster than everyone else's.
When he actually has to fight for a position on track, he chucks his toys out of the pram.
And unfortunately, Vettel's not the only one. Hamilton is just as guilty at times, and I'm worried that Verstappen will end up going the same way if he ends up winning a championship in the next few years.
Of all the issues I have with modern F1, this attitude from some drivers is the most worrying for me.
posted on 25/9/17
And unfortunately, Vettel's not the only one. Hamilton is just as guilty at times, and I'm worried that Verstappen will end up going the same way if he ends up winning a championship in the next few years.
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Sorry, I do not agree with this at all. The only person who has displayed similar behaviour to Seb when things do not go his way is Alonso.
Hamilton and Verstappen are racers and are more than happy to race people. I have never seen them use their cars as weapons or do anything near what I have seen Seb do. The only person I can think of who did similar stuff was Senna.
Even Schumacher would be like, dude, that's not on.
posted on 25/9/17
Hamilton and Verstappen are racers and are more than happy to race people.
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Yeah I'm happy to hold my hands up and say I'm wrong here. It's Hamilton's fans that are the issue here.
It winds me up that they're so quick to give all the credit to Hamilton when he does well and then put all the blame on the team when he doesn't do well.
posted on 25/9/17
comment by TallAndUseless - I don't believe in realism (U7652)
posted 8 minutes ago
Hamilton and Verstappen are racers and are more than happy to race people.
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Yeah I'm happy to hold my hands up and say I'm wrong here. It's Hamilton's fans that are the issue here.
It winds me up that they're so quick to give all the credit to Hamilton when he does well and then put all the blame on the team when he doesn't do well.
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How is this relevant to the article or the points raised?
posted on 25/9/17
That is why I don't like him, when he isn't having an easy race he often loses it and does something daft/throws a tantrum. He only seems to operate well when he has a open track. He knows how to drive a car fast, but I don't rate him too highly as a racer (if that makes sense).
But I think he's done well this season just to be in the mix, before the Singapore mess I even thought he'd win the championship. I'd say he's better now than when he was dominating with RB. Merc and Hamilton are still too good.
posted on 25/9/17
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by TallAndUseless - I don't believe in realism (U7652)
posted 8 minutes ago
Hamilton and Verstappen are racers and are more than happy to race people.
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Yeah I'm happy to hold my hands up and say I'm wrong here. It's Hamilton's fans that are the issue here.
It winds me up that they're so quick to give all the credit to Hamilton when he does well and then put all the blame on the team when he doesn't do well.
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How is this relevant to the article or the points raised?
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It's not. It's just me offering up an explanation for my earlier screwup.