I've noticed a lot, in recent years, boxers and fans alike often spouting the phrase "the art of hitting without getting hit". This has led to more fighters prancing around on the run throwing out pitter patter punches to try and grab victories on points.
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but back in the early days of prize fighting was the aim not to knock your opponent out? There used to be no judges, no point scoring, fights would sometimes go 70 and 80 rounds before somebody was knocked out.
The aim of boxing is to knock your opponent out, the judges and point scoring are effectively for no more than health and safety reasons. Why on earth do boxers believe it is perfectly acceptable to move around on the back foot and try to simply land enough jabs to win on points, then complain when they don't get a decision.
Is it not right that the offensive fighters should be more commended?
The Art Of Knocking People Out
posted on 26/9/17
I think most of us would love it if fights were slugfests from beginning to end but unfortunately not everyone is built for that in two ways - some people don't possess the KO power/timing and some just can't seemingly get KO'd.
Boxing is about levels as well, if people fought only those they believed they could KO then you'd likely see an increase in the ducking of certain fighters who they know they can't handle.
posted on 26/9/17
comment by Can Solo (U6997)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
I'd argue that at the highest level (world championship) there are very, very few fighters that can get away with what you describe as "love taps" and still expect to win.
Simply put, if you can't keep the other man off you with a degree of power in your shots then your movement had better be nothing short of outstanding. Not many fall into that category IMO.
I think the only reason this is an issue (or talked about) is we've just witnessed the careers of Mayweather (one of the greatest defensive boxers ever) and Ward who both looked to control fights rather than take people out necessarily. They're both good enough to do that but they're the exception.
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Even then Floyd only became a backfoot fighter or cautious fighter after moving up the weights and realising he didnt have the pop in his shots to come forward and therefore focused on defusing his opponents with skill & range management.
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comment by The Guvnor IV - Have no fear the batty bandit is here going balls deep in forza is a favourite pastime, if he asks for a reach around then that's just fine. Males from 20-50 is within my range, line them up and I'll do something strange for chan (U12889)
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There is a common misconception that Floyd "runs" and it just isn't the case. His footwork and defense are so incredible that fighters and casual fans claim he is running. If you watch his fights, he is actually within striking range during most of the fight, it's just a case of him being able to get his jab or right hand off quicker than his opponent can react.
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He is defusing, constantly making minor adjustments and changing up so many things to keep the other fighter thinking of what Floyd is doing at not what they are doing. Its a classic Floyd trait in his later fights, and it comes across as though the other fighter isnt working hard enough or throwing enough. I seen a Berto full length interview where he was talking about this. was really interesting and he talks about how observant Floyd is in the ring.
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comment by The Guvnor IV - Have no fear the batty bandit is here going balls deep in forza is a favourite pastime, if he asks for a reach around then that's just fine. Males from 20-50 is within my range, line them up and I'll do something strange for chan (U12889)
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comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
There are some points to you argument Mr Halen. However an effective punch doesnt always have to be a power shot, a jab can be the most effective punch in boxing yet can also be least powerful.
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The jab is perhaps the most important punch in boxing because everything is set up behind it. Not only is it used in combinations but it can also be used to set traps and keep your opponent guessing and on the back foot.
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range finder, creates rythmn, sets other fighters off balance, more powerful than it looks, sets up other punches there is loads of benefits of the jab. A lazy jab however can be your worst enemy !
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comment by The Guvnor IV - Have no fear the batty bandit is here going balls deep in forza is a favourite pastime, if he asks for a reach around then that's just fine. Males from 20-50 is within my range, line them up and I'll do something strange for chan (U12889)
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comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by The Guvnor IV - Have no fear the batty bandit is here going balls deep in forza is a favourite pastime, if he asks for a reach around then that's just fine. Males from 20-50 is within my range, line them up and I'll do something strange for chan (U12889)
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comment by delboy82 (U7141)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
There are some points to you argument Mr Halen. However an effective punch doesnt always have to be a power shot, a jab can be the most effective punch in boxing yet can also be least powerful.
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The jab is perhaps the most important punch in boxing because everything is set up behind it. Not only is it used in combinations but it can also be used to set traps and keep your opponent guessing and on the back foot.
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range finder, creates rythmn, sets other fighters off balance, more powerful than it looks, sets up other punches there is loads of benefits of the jab. A lazy jab however can be your worst enemy !
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You're better off not using the jab if it's a lazy one.
The jab to the body is a highly underrated punch. Those can accumulate and slow down any fighter.
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a jab can become lazy later on the fight as fatigue sets in or the the other fighter doesnt have the belief and uses the jab outta fear and becomes tentative. Seen it plently of times, seen guys in the gym with a real snappy stiff jab then come the ring they have no belief in it all or they doubt it after someone manages to counter it just once. Mentality comes into it also.