Our Owner

I'm a WOKO

Russian interference (misinformation, propaganda, voter suppression, and support of Trump) in the US election was established by US intelligence services in 2016.

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07/joint-statement-department-homeland-security-and-office-director-national

The Russians hacked the DNC servers prior to the election and leaked the data to Assange. Flynn and Manfort both knew of this and Trump junior (by his own admission) was willing to meet with the Russians to obtain more 'dirt' on Clinton.

WikiLeaks in turn released over 70,000 emails which killed Clinton’s campaign. Assange wanted Trump to win the election too as Clinton had WikiLeaks in her sites.

Since 2016 various federal investigations have been ongoing, with indictments a certainly for Flynn and Manafort. Both of whom were being investigated by the FBI prior to becoming involved in the Trump campaign.

Flynn went on to become Trump's national security advisor before having to resign over his involvement with the FSB.

There are a number of others (including Sessions, Kushner, and Bannon) who are also potentially facing indictments due to their involvement

Russian interference in the US elections are not allegations but an accepted fact.

comment by I'm a WOKO - thats Wenger out, Kronke out (U16927)

Do you prefer Clinton? Even before Bill became president I saw a lot of the evidence about their alleged involvement in crime and murder. It was far more convincing than the allegations of Russian interference with the last US election. And dont forget he only got out of a rape charge (which is was almost without doubt guilty of) by paying a multi million dollar out of court settlement.

The fact remains that once you dig beneath the surface ALL politicians have to battle against deceit, backstabbing and all sorts f underhand tactics to succeed. I have hear it a number of times from reliable sources that no one in senior politics in the world got where they are without being the best at playing the power game. They are all very strong, manipulative power hungry megalomanics and it is this trait that gets them to the pinnacle of a very dangerous career adder where climbing the ladder by destroying other people is commonplace.

So any leader is at best no more than the best of the worst of society.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Absolutely for a more peaceful world. The Clinton machine is of self promotion and we all know of Bill Clinton's peccadilloes. However the Clintons are the most scrutinized family for the last 30 years, don't you think if there was anything to the right wing propaganda it would have been discovered by now?

And look at Trump, the 'alternative'. A crypto fascist with neo nasti leanings who has been literately charged with sexual assaults, admitted it himself and hell bent on destroying world trade and so the world economy. What do you think that will produce? Peace or World War III?

Just consider why Putin was so desperate to have him in power. For a stronger more peaceful west?

comment by I'm a WOKO - thats Wenger out, Kronke out (U16927)
posted 3 hours, 54 minutes ago
More left wing propaganda. I dont like Kronke and want him out but linking it to political viewpoints shows your agenda. Dont forget, the yanks voted Trump nto power so a lot of them must have wanted him.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think you choosing to call it "left wing propaganda" before later saying "..ALL politicians have to battle against deceit, backstabbing and all sorts f underhand tactics to succeed." says far more about your "agenda".

Ironically having Trump in power has backfired on the Russians. It will take decades now to remove sanctions and invite Russia back to the fold from its pariah status. It will be harsh lesson for Russian citizens and its oligarchs.

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 22 minutes ago
Ironically having Trump in power has backfired on the Russians. It will take decades now to remove sanctions and invite Russia back to the fold from its pariah status. It will be harsh lesson for Russian citizens and its oligarchs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Although with a UK outside the EU, (UK have been the foremost member state in pushing for Russian sanctions – due to Russian intervention in Ukraine) the Russians believe they will be able leverage remaining member states to moderate EU sanctions (EU is Russia’s largest trading partner) without the ‘aggressive ‘UK.

Whether this happens (a relaxation of sanctions) I’m not so sure, as many of the EU Balkan states have just been as aggressive as the UK.

Personally i couldn't care less about the political leanings of our owner and/or his personal life. He could be a part time Náazi or love cross dressing in his private life. And who he chooses to give his wealth to is certainly no business of mine.

I'm more interested in the fact that he's an utterly useless owner who certainly has no interest in our club and is more than happy to sponge off the club rather that put some serious investment into it.

Seebs, try posting your article now.

Thank you.

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? (U3126)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 22 minutes ago
Ironically having Trump in power has backfired on the Russians. It will take decades now to remove sanctions and invite Russia back to the fold from its pariah status. It will be harsh lesson for Russian citizens and its oligarchs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Although with a UK outside the EU, (UK have been the foremost member state in pushing for Russian sanctions – due to Russian intervention in Ukraine) the Russians believe they will be able leverage remaining member states to moderate EU sanctions (EU is Russia’s largest trading partner) without the ‘aggressive ‘UK.

Whether this happens (a relaxation of sanctions) I’m not so sure, as many of the EU Balkan states have just been as aggressive as the UK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not so sure. Germany (East) is one of the biggest Russian trading partners and after the rise of the extreme right with the prompting of the Russians using Merican Alt movements suggests that if Merkel is able to form a stable coalition is going hurt the Russians again. Its not like the meddling stopped.

"Supports, and donates to ($1m), Donald Trump"

Well, if he'd donated to that sociopathic monster Hillary Clinton I wonder if you'd be saying the same thing ?