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Well into the Season and we are exactly where any of could have hoped to have been.

Once again the Owners seem to be getting everything right even if we don't always understand it at the time, even if Rudkin still looks like the evil side henchman sitting next to Vichai.

This player isn't good enough, this player is past it, he should get more game time, yet look at the Table, ONLY the Top 6 above us and we aren't out of place with room for improvement, imagine how we'll look when Silva is up to speed.

Then take a look at some of those given as our aspirations over the last few years, Swansea and Southampton to name a couple of teams with Managers like Silva and Clement pushed as forward thinking Managers we would have been lucky to have.

Yet here we are, sitting pretty in 7th, a Manager who knows how to get the best out of the players and seems to understand not only their abilities but their lack of it, he just seems to keep getting it right.

The 3 promoted teams all looking like relegation fodder now while we quietly evolve.

Nothing wrong with constructive criticism but don't you just love that OUR Club keeps rubbing everyone's faces in it, our fans, their fans and pundits alike.




Vive L'Evolution

posted on 21/1/18

Nice one TB glad you are enjoying the French revolution good post agree completely poor old Rudkin even if he signed Messi that would be credited to Steve Walsh.

posted on 21/1/18

Good write up TB, agree with it all. The owners have got more or less every decision right baring a few, appointing Shakey if with good intentions with the benefit of hindsight was a wrong decidion.

Imagine if we'd had Puel from the start of the season with his own transfer window, pre season etc.

posted on 21/1/18

"Imagine if we'd had Puel from the start of the season with his own transfer window, pre season etc."

Don't quite agree there, it was all part of the journey and gave Puel and the players chance to bed in with games under the belt, how much influence does the Manager have on transfers, if the rumours about Ian are true, not much.

Puel might have gone with revolution from pre- season rather than Evolution.

PS - I might be in the minority of one but I still don;t think shakey went too far wrong with the fixture list and players he had at the start of the Season,despite how well we're doing now, I personally don;t think we'd have been too far off this position had Shakey stayed.

posted on 21/1/18

Appointing Shakey as Manager was a mistake. I'm not convinced we'd be anywhere near where we are if he'd not been replaced. He didn't show anything like the skill Claude has in rotating players and tactics so far.

I think we'd probably would have been above the relegation zone by a few points however, but not at the lofty heights we've reached at present.

For the record, since Claude was appointed we've averaged 1.67 points per game which would get us 63 points over a season - and we've played 5 out of the top 6 during this period. That would have been good enough for 7th last season so it's reasonable to think that we're about in the right spot now.

posted on 21/1/18

I did say I’d be in a minority of one

posted on 21/1/18

You did indeed; if I'm not agreeing with you it's unlikely many others are.

I'm all for supporting the manager normally but the Shakey experiment looked dubious from the start and did not work. This from a person who still reckons that Nige could have delivered the title if he hadn't been sacked!

posted on 21/1/18

I think appointing Shakey as a caretaker manager was absolutely the right thing to do.

But there were cracks appearing in the system well before the end of the season and the Spurs home game was a severe warning.

I think the mistake we made was not heeding that warning and appointing a new manager in the summer. Maybe, just maybe we could have retained Shakey in a coaching role, although I accept that the incoming manager may have been uncomfortable with that.

posted on 21/1/18

I also think we’d be much better off with Shakey than we were when he left. He was a little one dimensional but we’d had a gobber of a fixture list and he wasn’t given time.

However, there nondenying that Puel has stepped us on and is much more dynamic. He also deserves credit for looking like the first manager that’s been able to evolve our side since the great escape. And that in itself deserves a great deal of praise.

Long may this continue.

posted on 22/1/18

comment by For Fox Sake (U4263)
posted 20 hours, 8 minutes ago
I think appointing Shakey as a caretaker manager was absolutely the right thing to do.

But there were cracks appearing in the system well before the end of the season and the Spurs home game was a severe warning.

I think the mistake we made was not heeding that warning and appointing a new manager in the summer. Maybe, just maybe we could have retained Shakey in a coaching role, although I accept that the incoming manager may have been uncomfortable with that.
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Just to be clear I was talking about the permanent rather than caretaker role, don't disagree with your comments.

comment by Jobyfox (U4183)

posted on 23/1/18

It’s the old short-term syndrome that football fans suffer from again isn’t it.

Shakey had a few games against the top clubs and unsurprisingly struggled. He would certainly have been expected to do a lot better had he been retained, although it would have been interesting to see if he had a plan b. I suspect not, but the truth is that it was far too early to really say.

Now Puel appears to be doing really well. I like a lot in what I see, because it’s clear he has his own plan. I think I read somewhere that he’s brought more young players through then any other coach in Europe. What I like most is that for the first time since Pearson, Walsh and Shakespeare came in to the club we look like we have a plan.

But if we start to struggle next season he could still be sacked before Christmas. The same people who are saying how brilliant he’s doing now will be calling for his head.

I hope that results continue to be good enough to keep Puel in a job so that we can also continue to invest in youth and make us a more sustainable PL club.

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