Let’s get this one resolved once and for all.
The big argument seems to be Liverpool are not as good as people think because they finished 25 points behind City and 6 points behind United.
I’m not away to do the full research but I think apart from when United had elite teams they managed a full title winning team as well as winning the CL. I’m sure Liverpool done it in the 80’s..
Now the modern PL in recent years Liverpool to the Europa final, Chelsea to the CL and Europa win and Man United to the Europa win. Due to the strength of the league and the large amount of games played correct me if I’m wrong each time the team with the European run has stuttered in the league.
I’m going on record to say if Man City knocked uis out the CL and made the final they would not have hit 100 points and the gap would have been smaller.
Any team who goes all the way to the CL final in the PL or the Europa league will drop points.
Last seasons league positions and the points gap means nothing. Plus when you sign new players to improve you can’t compae last seasons “gap" to this season at all.
It’s a shallow argument which means nothing. Also City had this 100 points thing to chase while united played at a half pace once they secured top four.
Everyone forget last season, stop going on about the 25 points because it’s not as black and white as that. It means nothing. Uniteds 6 points ahead of Liverpool means nothing. United came 5th or 6th I think when they won the Europa league. That ment nothing because they put all their eggs in the Europe basket.
Last season is over it’s all about this season.
League places last season what does it mean
posted on 21/8/18
comment by plastic fantastic (U21613)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by VirgilVanLegend (U4199)
posted 4 minutes ago
I know imagine writing an article based on facts you can't argue against
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Give us the facts this sharticle is based on please
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It's common sense.
posted on 21/8/18
25 points is a huge gap however you spin it, 7 points isn’t. So by your logic Chelsea only won the league because they didn’t have European football and we did?
posted on 21/8/18
Is it summat to do with frying fish?
posted on 21/8/18
With respect city's 100 points was a historic record and they rightly deserve to be fabourites based on it.
End of.
However if you sign into it a bit and see they took 24 out of 30 points v top 6 rivals and were out of fa cup and cl for run in.... well...
Then if you look at lfc past two seasons 76 points and 75 points. The first year we were great v top 6 and lousy v bottom half. Then last year we were hammering lower half but only took 10 points v top 6...
Lfc have improved playing wise and so 85-90 points may be possible. Alisson vvd etc etc. It has yo come v top half sides though.
posted on 21/8/18
Good post, VvL, it's hard/nigh impossible to place any weight on last year's performances and results. Time to move on.
We've got an improved, some may say vastly improved spine in the team, although last night they weren't so great due to CP's performance.
All that matters now is the next game. Nothing else matters. You make a valid point on, effectively, priority, and who wants what.
I'll nail my colours to the mast; our manager wants to win the PL. anything else, everything else is a bonus.
posted on 21/8/18
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posted on 22/8/18
I understand where the OP is coming from with this article. I doubt City would've 'suffered' if they had progressed. Their squad is ridiculous. Maybe Us, Utd & Chelsea.
Looking more specifically with us, our midfield was depleted towards the end of the season and we were running our front 3 into the ground. If we had all our players fit, I doubt our league form would've stagnated like it did towards the end, where Chelsea got a small whiff of things. God willing, Sturridge stays fit throughout the whole season and with Shaqiri now here as well, maybe we can juggle the two competitions better.
Klopp also needs to work on his substitutions. I dont know the real science behind it but some subs need to come earlier so as to not risk the player getting an injury.
Also to say that if the team progressed in the CL, their PL form stuttered is a bit ill advised. Chelsea put all their eggs in that CL basket because thats all they had that season. Mourinho put his eggs in the EL because thats all they had that season and that was their only route into the CL. Those respective teams HAD to do that...I dont think both competitions would've had a bearing on the other if they were fighting for both competitions.
posted on 22/8/18
I would remind people of who city lost to in the cup... and when.
If city went deep into cl like us.. maybe they would have onky got 95 points not 100
posted on 23/8/18
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 21 hours, 53 minutes ago
I understand where the OP is coming from with this article. I doubt City would've 'suffered' if they had progressed. Their squad is ridiculous. Maybe Us, Utd & Chelsea.
Looking more specifically with us, our midfield was depleted towards the end of the season and we were running our front 3 into the ground. If we had all our players fit, I doubt our league form would've stagnated like it did towards the end, where Chelsea got a small whiff of things. God willing, Sturridge stays fit throughout the whole season and with Shaqiri now here as well, maybe we can juggle the two competitions better.
Klopp also needs to work on his substitutions. I dont know the real science behind it but some subs need to come earlier so as to not risk the player getting an injury.
Also to say that if the team progressed in the CL, their PL form stuttered is a bit ill advised. Chelsea put all their eggs in that CL basket because thats all they had that season. Mourinho put his eggs in the EL because thats all they had that season and that was their only route into the CL. Those respective teams HAD to do that...I dont think both competitions would've had a bearing on the other if they were fighting for both competitions.
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posted on 23/8/18
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 8 hours, 17 minutes ago
I would remind people of who city lost to in the cup... and when.
If city went deep into cl like us.. maybe they would have onky got 95 points not 100
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What about if you hadn’t been knocked out of the FA cup in January and Chelsea hadn’t gone all the way and won it. Would they have finished 4th ahead of yourselves?