So it turns out

comment by Erik (U21750)
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comment by No-name (U21614)
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comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 17 seconds ago
When did I ever mention responsibility? I'm just stating facts, Benitez demoted Chelsea

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Then Mourinho failed with Porto in his first season then.
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You're the one mentioning failure again.

I just stated facts. Under Benitez Chelsea were demoted.
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In Rafa's one and only CL game in charge at Chelsea in which we won 6-1. Come on Wahl

I never said it was Benitez' fault though.

comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
I never said it was Benitez' fault though.
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yes you did.

I actually worry when I laugh at wahl because he could actually have a disability.

comment by Superb (U6486)
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comment by Erik (U21750)
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comment by Erik (U21750)
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 2 seconds ago
With the money it was inevitable that Chelsea would become the club they are. Roman made the club not Mourinho.
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Jesper Gronkjaer made the club, or Ken Bates, or Matthew Harding, or goals that saved us from relegation, or promoted us from the third tier. Or the huge crowds we got back in the 30s and through the decades, and the shareholders...we've got a great history. Winning titles does not equal history. If that was the case then there would not be 92 football league teams. there would be just 4 accordingto wahl.
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Chelsea have no history pre 2004 you idiot. Chelsea's history before then was worse than west ham, wolves, Aston villa etc.Joke.
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Wahl sadly you've shown yourself up here with your total lack of knowledge about Chelsea before 2003. That makes me think you only started supporting Chelsea when Abramovich came along.

Had you supported us before that you'd have known that we had a very successful era in the 90's through to the early 00's in which we won 2 FA Cups, the European Cup Winners Cup, the Super Cup (beating Real Madrid), as well as a League Cup.Not to mention finishing top three a couple of times and representing in the CL.

All done without Abramovich or your beloved Mourinho.
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I was only born in 1997 superbdudebro, the earliest season I can remember partially is 03-04 and fully is 04-05. My dad obviously has been a Chelsea fan for longer, and he's always said Chelsea were an average team generally before Abramovich came, and were never anywhere near to united or arsenal in the premier League era.

In terms of the trophies you've mentioned, FA Cups and Carling cups are cool, but nothing major and I don't think they even have the cup winners cup anymore, so it can't be that important a competition really.

OK, maybe Chelsea were on par with the likes of Aston Villa and Wolves then, but they were miles away from the big boys like Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool before Mourinho made them big.

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Wahl we were never in Man Utd's league prior to 2003 (no Chelsea fan would claim otherwise) but hopefully you can acknowledge that your comments about Chelsea achieving nothing and having no history before Abramovich are just plain wrong and offensive to Chelsea fans because of that. History isn't about how many league titles you win.

The European Cup Winners Cup we won back in 98 was a really good trophy to win at the time even if they disbanded that trophy now. And going on to beat Real Madrid that summer to lift the Super Cup was also a great achievement.

And no offence to the likes of Wolves and West Ham but I don't remember those clubs ever having such memorable nights. Certainly not in the modern PL era - which you claim is really all that matters.

Also if you want to know a bit more about our history you can have read up about the glamorous Chelsea side of the 1960's, which big movie stars of the time like Raquel Welch used to come and watch. George Best said in his autobiography that there's only one other club he would have played for in the 60's and that was Chelsea.

Also have a read up about our classic FA Cup encounters with Leeds in the early 1970's that broke viewing figures from the time. Educate yourself a bit about the club you're saying you support.
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European Cup Winners Cup in 71 as well Superb, beating Real Madrid in a replay in Athens!

comment by Erik (U21750)
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comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 1 minute ago
This is disgraceful. You should be ashamed of yourself. After everything Mourinho did for all of us, he should have earned our respect and loyalty. This is sad.
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Hes a spend crazy, egomaniac, cheque book mercenary who doesn't give a toss about anyone or anything other than himself. When the going gets tough, he always facks off. A dinosaur, a tactical geriatric, a blamer, a(n) (e)Scape goat merchant, a two bit conman, a negative Nancy, a betamax manager in a streaming world, a good looking man with an ugly soul.
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Amazing turn around.

You used to love, trust and believe in Jose. I could dig out some of your comments. You lived up his rise and now this?

Shocking. If you can't say something nice then don't say anything at all.

Looks like Wahl is right.


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tbf Jose was great in the beginning and everyone acknowledges that. The fact that we changed our opinion of him is understandable and allowed. I feel nothing for the guy today but have great memories of what he achieved first time around. A person who blindly follows Jose and not question the change in his management style and personality is frankly obsessive and probably a potential stalker of his. Jose received almost unconditional loving in his last season here despite pressure he put on himself with results ,Eva etc. How did he repay us paying fans? By making a fuss on his first return to SB about how Conte celebrated the stuffing of his new team and then to rub us fans up the wrong way comes out with "never had such good supporters back my team" referring to MUFC fans. Well those very same fans were streaming out well before the 90th minute last night. How good are they now Jose? Maybe now he will understand how out of order he was after the 4-0 drubbing. No doubt he said it for effect but at what price to his relationship with us?


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Is that seriously why you're upset at Mourinho???

Because he told Conte it was disrespectful to celebrate at 4-0 (which it was)? That's not insulting to Chelsea, that's insulting to Conte, a manager who actually did disrespect Chelsea by downing tools last season. In terms of the fans comment, are you really expecting Mourinho whilst he's the manager of Manchester United to say that the Chelsea fans were better than the United fans? Because that wouldn't piiiss of anyone at Manchester United, would it? Also, why does it even matter if he did say that, he was just complimenting the United fans, he didn't say anything bad about Chelsea.

I can't actually believe this is the reason for the huge turnaround in opinion from Chelsea fans on Mourinho. Were you expecting him to, whilst manager of Manchester United, to be praising Chelsea every week? How could he do that, he would be fired so quickly if he said even one good thing about Chelsea.
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Why say anything that will antagonise us fans who always supported him? Had you got off your sorry ass and been to games you would see the respect he got when he managed Inter against us. Why are you blind to this? Jose is spent. He has nothing to offer in England now. He was an innovator in the early 2000's and was mocking Allardyce as a dinosaur not 4 years ago. He is now a dinosaur. Woodward can see he is not to be trusted with money so won't buy him a centre half. why would he when he blew millions and is boring and churlish both on and off the pitch. I go to a fair few away games and in the past I've spent time with Chopper Harris. I would love you to tell him that Chelsea were nothing before Mourinho.
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What did he say to antagonize Chelsea? nothing. The rest of your comment is just craaap since Mourinho finished 2nd last season, so he clearly isn't a dinosaur. And I'd gladly tell anyone my opinion on Chelsea history. I don't know why that would personally anger someone. If it did, they take football too seriously.
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How can you tell anyone about a subject you don't know about.

I'd love to see Wahl on mastermind answering questions on his specialist subject, 'The history of Chelsea since 1905'.

Magnus Magnusson:

"Well Wahl, in your two minutes you scored zero points".

comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 5 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 10 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 2 seconds ago
With the money it was inevitable that Chelsea would become the club they are. Roman made the club not Mourinho.
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Jesper Gronkjaer made the club, or Ken Bates, or Matthew Harding, or goals that saved us from relegation, or promoted us from the third tier. Or the huge crowds we got back in the 30s and through the decades, and the shareholders...we've got a great history. Winning titles does not equal history. If that was the case then there would not be 92 football league teams. there would be just 4 accordingto wahl.
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Chelsea have no history pre 2004 you idiot. Chelsea's history before then was worse than west ham, wolves, Aston villa etc.Joke.
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Wahl sadly you've shown yourself up here with your total lack of knowledge about Chelsea before 2003. That makes me think you only started supporting Chelsea when Abramovich came along.

Had you supported us before that you'd have known that we had a very successful era in the 90's through to the early 00's in which we won 2 FA Cups, the European Cup Winners Cup, the Super Cup (beating Real Madrid), as well as a League Cup.Not to mention finishing top three a couple of times and representing in the CL.

All done without Abramovich or your beloved Mourinho.
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I was only born in 1997 superbdudebro, the earliest season I can remember partially is 03-04 and fully is 04-05. My dad obviously has been a Chelsea fan for longer, and he's always said Chelsea were an average team generally before Abramovich came, and were never anywhere near to united or arsenal in the premier League era.

In terms of the trophies you've mentioned, FA Cups and Carling cups are cool, but nothing major and I don't think they even have the cup winners cup anymore, so it can't be that important a competition really.

OK, maybe Chelsea were on par with the likes of Aston Villa and Wolves then, but they were miles away from the big boys like Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool before Mourinho made them big.

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Wahl we were never in Man Utd's league prior to 2003 (no Chelsea fan would claim otherwise) but hopefully you can acknowledge that your comments about Chelsea achieving nothing and having no history before Abramovich are just plain wrong and offensive to Chelsea fans because of that. History isn't about how many league titles you win.

The European Cup Winners Cup we won back in 98 was a really good trophy to win at the time even if they disbanded that trophy now. And going on to beat Real Madrid that summer to lift the Super Cup was also a great achievement.

And no offence to the likes of Wolves and West Ham but I don't remember those clubs ever having such memorable nights. Certainly not in the modern PL era - which you claim is really all that matters.

Also if you want to know a bit more about our history you can have read up about the glamorous Chelsea side of the 1960's, which big movie stars of the time like Raquel Welch used to come and watch. George Best said in his autobiography that there's only one other club he would have played for in the 60's and that was Chelsea.

Also have a read up about our classic FA Cup encounters with Leeds in the early 1970's that broke viewing figures from the time. Educate yourself a bit about the club you're saying you support.
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European Cup Winners Cup in 71 as well Superb, beating Real Madrid in a replay in Athens!
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Cheers Brummie, I usually remember that one. So we beat Real Madrid twice then the two times we faced them in a Final, in 71 as well as 98

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 4 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 5 hours, 52 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 10 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Alexis The King Sanchez (U10026)
posted 2 seconds ago
With the money it was inevitable that Chelsea would become the club they are. Roman made the club not Mourinho.
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Jesper Gronkjaer made the club, or Ken Bates, or Matthew Harding, or goals that saved us from relegation, or promoted us from the third tier. Or the huge crowds we got back in the 30s and through the decades, and the shareholders...we've got a great history. Winning titles does not equal history. If that was the case then there would not be 92 football league teams. there would be just 4 accordingto wahl.
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Chelsea have no history pre 2004 you idiot. Chelsea's history before then was worse than west ham, wolves, Aston villa etc.Joke.
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Wahl sadly you've shown yourself up here with your total lack of knowledge about Chelsea before 2003. That makes me think you only started supporting Chelsea when Abramovich came along.

Had you supported us before that you'd have known that we had a very successful era in the 90's through to the early 00's in which we won 2 FA Cups, the European Cup Winners Cup, the Super Cup (beating Real Madrid), as well as a League Cup.Not to mention finishing top three a couple of times and representing in the CL.

All done without Abramovich or your beloved Mourinho.
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I was only born in 1997 superbdudebro, the earliest season I can remember partially is 03-04 and fully is 04-05. My dad obviously has been a Chelsea fan for longer, and he's always said Chelsea were an average team generally before Abramovich came, and were never anywhere near to united or arsenal in the premier League era.

In terms of the trophies you've mentioned, FA Cups and Carling cups are cool, but nothing major and I don't think they even have the cup winners cup anymore, so it can't be that important a competition really.

OK, maybe Chelsea were on par with the likes of Aston Villa and Wolves then, but they were miles away from the big boys like Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool before Mourinho made them big.

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Wahl we were never in Man Utd's league prior to 2003 (no Chelsea fan would claim otherwise) but hopefully you can acknowledge that your comments about Chelsea achieving nothing and having no history before Abramovich are just plain wrong and offensive to Chelsea fans because of that. History isn't about how many league titles you win.

The European Cup Winners Cup we won back in 98 was a really good trophy to win at the time even if they disbanded that trophy now. And going on to beat Real Madrid that summer to lift the Super Cup was also a great achievement.

And no offence to the likes of Wolves and West Ham but I don't remember those clubs ever having such memorable nights. Certainly not in the modern PL era - which you claim is really all that matters.

Also if you want to know a bit more about our history you can have read up about the glamorous Chelsea side of the 1960's, which big movie stars of the time like Raquel Welch used to come and watch. George Best said in his autobiography that there's only one other club he would have played for in the 60's and that was Chelsea.

Also have a read up about our classic FA Cup encounters with Leeds in the early 1970's that broke viewing figures from the time. Educate yourself a bit about the club you're saying you support.
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European Cup Winners Cup in 71 as well Superb, beating Real Madrid in a replay in Athens!
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Cheers Brummie, I usually remember that one. So we beat Real Madrid twice then the two times we faced them in a Final, in 71 as well as 98
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Yeah, they've never beaten us in a European final.

You could have mentioned the fact we had an estimated 120,000 at Stamford Bridge for a friendly in 1946 as well Superb.

Brummie

I see wahl is back to calling hazard b!tch boy, after lying a few weeks ago saying he never said anything bad about hazard, after originally saying this:

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Can't wait for another 10th place finish for Chelsea this season.

What a club.
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I wonder who instigated our last 10th place finish 🤔
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The woman and biiitch boy Hazard did."