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Ball playing GK's now vs 10/11

The season's just started so it might not mean too much but the comparison between the keepers at top clubs now compared to 10/11 in the ball playing stakes are pretty contrasting (to say the least).

(Manchester City)Ederson 80% pass completion 2.5 long balls per game (86% last season)
(Liverpool) Alisson 85.7% 5.8
(Spurs) Lloris 67.1% 6.7
(Chelsea) Arrizabalaga 75% 5.5
(Arsenal) Cech 71.4% 5.3
(Manchester United) De Gea 50% 7.8
(Real Madrid) Navas 87.7% 5
(Real Madrid) Courtois 100% 4
(Barcelona) Ter-Stegen 90% 4.7
(Atletico Madrid) Oblak 39.3 5.3
(Bayern) Neuer 93.3% 7
(PSG) Buffon 96.3% 1
(PSG) Areola 91.7% 1.5
(Juventus) Szczesny 84.8% 6

Compare that to the top keepers in 10/11
(Manchester United) Van Der Sar 58.6% 7.3
(Chelsea) Petr Cech 52.8% 7.3
(Manchester City) Joe Hart 44% 6.2
(Arsenal) Szczesny 48% 3.9
(Barcelona) Victor Valdes 82% 4.3
(Real Madrid) Iker Casillas 61.8 5.4
(Atletico Madrid) David De Gea 50.3% 7.9
(Inter) Julio Cesar 66.7% 6.6
(AC Milan) Abiati 61.2% 6.1
(Bayern) Jorg Butt 70.6 9
(Dortmund) Roman Weidenfeller 59.3% 7.4
(Schalke) Manuel Neuer 65.5% 9.6

Did Pep set a trend or was he just simply ahead of his time?

comment by bomdia (U13941)

posted on 3/9/18

I think Ederson uses it sparingly where it can have a real surprise effect, thus his pass to Aguero for a goal against Huddersfield. He seems to actually pass it huge distances, not just hoof it. Many on the list have terrible distribution, as did our own Joe Hart, for whom anywhere in the stadium was a good kick. The likes of Lloris and De Gea, while great shot stoppers, simply cannot do that and look uncomfortable with the ball at their feet.

posted on 3/9/18

It's interesting seeing Szczecny's comparable stats between then and now. Has he adapted his ways to todays demands or always had it in his locker but didn't need to utilize it?

comment by IAmMe (U18491)

posted on 3/9/18

Nah

Not having it.

You're all lying.

Coco is THE bestiest goalkeeper in the worldy ever ever ever.

That must be true because ....... well coz it just is

You'll only have the muppets stamping their feet with this stuff.

posted on 3/9/18

I think sometimes De Gea looks great on the ball, he’s pulled off the Cryuff turn that Allison messed up quite a few times and always looked composed, he also has quite a range of passing. He hasn’t got the distance on his kick that Ederson has, or a throw like Pete and does now and then make a poor pass but he defiantly isn’t scared on the ball at feet like someone like Cech.

It’ll be interesting to see how Allison reacts to his mistake, it seems to be a big part of his game and I’m sure Klopp wants him to continue to play from the back but opponents will go for him and he will be conscious of that and that may affect him?

posted on 3/9/18

Thats what Pellegrini did at City right.
But hang on a bit, Pellegrini was brought in to bring holistic football according to the City hierachy.

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Kind of.

Pellegrini was brought in as a short term appointment, in preparation for Pep becoming manager. And everything rested on Pep being appointed. The holistic approach was to implement Pep's vision throughout the entire club - from youth to reserve to sister clubs to (finally and most significantly) the first team. Pellegrini's entire reign was one of holding the fort for Pep's arrival. Bringing Pep in was the goal of the club, the entire infrastructure of the club was counting on that happening.

That's what the holistic approach refers to.

Pellegrini was seen as the ideal manager in order to adopt the change in approach from Mancini to Pep. Mancini was needed, as you correctly point out, to instill a winning mentality, and by winning, placing the club in a position in which to acquire the players needed to continue winning. We weren't seen as that an attractive proposition under Mancini (despite the money), so we needed that transition. Mancini delivered that, but for what the owner's wanted, while he was the one to instill that mentality and raise the profile and attractiveness of the club, he wasn't the one to take it further. Mancini is his own man, Pellegrini on the other hand is more adaptable and is more aligned to the long-term vision that the owner's wanted. Hence why Mancini was replaced, and hence why, throughout the duration of Pellegrini's reign, it was all about getting Pep. Pep's appointment was actually sealed a long time before it was announced. And Pellegrini knew this all along.

comment by bomdia (U13941)

posted on 3/9/18

Allison will continue to play out, or there is no point in Liverpool buying him.

posted on 3/9/18

comment by THE bag (U11806)
posted 2 hours, 55 minutes ago
Reflects that De Gea has stagnated, needs to move on to improve himself
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probably utterly facked off with having to cover the inadequacies of donkeys like Jones

comment by bomdia (U13941)

posted on 3/9/18

Signing a new contract for £350k a week reportedly. Was bang average at the WC and if anything, worse this season. Not bad for over a million a month.

posted on 4/9/18

Good article, not sure why it's being 1 starred?

It's definitely the in thing nowadays and is changing what's required to be a top keeper for a lot of clubs (also changing the qualities required for defenders too)

posted on 4/9/18

"Did Pep set a trend or was he just simply ahead of his time?"

We must have been ahead of our time by playing rush goalie in the school playground.

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