My rant

comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 36 minutes ago
Im sure you loved him given he basically played CB for you guys everytime we played eachother.
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I don't understand how you can like Morata and hate Torres. Morata sulks, doesn't try and misses more easy chances that Torres did. Torres, despite everything, never gave up for Chelsea and always tried. I can't hate a player like Torres who does that but Morata is another story.

comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 36 minutes ago
Im sure you loved him given he basically played CB for you guys everytime we played eachother.
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I don't understand how you can like Morata and hate Torres. Morata sulks, doesn't try and misses more easy chances that Torres did. Torres, despite everything, never gave up for Chelsea and always tried. I can't hate a player like Torres who does that but Morata is another story.
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Given you support United i can fully understand why you liked Torres playing for us.

Torres never tried, his attitude was disgusting, from admitting to not caring about results to hiding from the ball to walking down the Loftus Road tunnel in a sulk to bitching about not starting the CL final, the list goes on.

comment by Respectedabsolutetruth11 (U9573)
posted 33 minutes ago
Letting Costa go was a big mistake. Someone like Sarri would have persuaded Costa to stay. Managers like Conte & Jose fall out with players too easily
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Costa circa 2018 i isn't the answer either.

comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 36 minutes ago
Im sure you loved him given he basically played CB for you guys everytime we played eachother.
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I don't understand how you can like Morata and hate Torres. Morata sulks, doesn't try and misses more easy chances that Torres did. Torres, despite everything, never gave up for Chelsea and always tried. I can't hate a player like Torres who does that but Morata is another story.
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Given you support United i can fully understand why you liked Torres playing for us.

Torres never tried, his attitude was disgusting, from admitting to not caring about results to hiding from the ball to walking down the Loftus Road tunnel in a sulk to bitching about not starting the CL final, the list goes on.
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Lol, you're exaggerating everything. For example, Torres didn't 'biiitch' about anything, he just spoke about his disappointment at not starting in the final, which is understandable.

Morata, no excuses for him, when you watch him for Chelsea you see a player that's given up, not one that's fighting. Can't forgive that.

As awful as we were today a better striker would've won us the points. The team did create chances but Morata was either offside or falling over. I went straight from the stadium to watch the Manchester game and watched Gundogan score a centre forwards goal. He was central penalty area and watched the back line and times his run to be onside. A couple of hours earlier Morata was getting caught offside cos he doesn't look across the line. Besides why would he need to steal a couple of yards against Jagielka? Frustrated

comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Erik (U21750)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Under The Bridge (U21614)
posted 36 minutes ago
Im sure you loved him given he basically played CB for you guys everytime we played eachother.
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I don't understand how you can like Morata and hate Torres. Morata sulks, doesn't try and misses more easy chances that Torres did. Torres, despite everything, never gave up for Chelsea and always tried. I can't hate a player like Torres who does that but Morata is another story.
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Given you support United i can fully understand why you liked Torres playing for us.

Torres never tried, his attitude was disgusting, from admitting to not caring about results to hiding from the ball to walking down the Loftus Road tunnel in a sulk to bitching about not starting the CL final, the list goes on.
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Lol, you're exaggerating everything. For example, Torres didn't 'biiitch' about anything, he just spoke about his disappointment at not starting in the final, which is understandable.

Morata, no excuses for him, when you watch him for Chelsea you see a player that's given up, not one that's fighting. Can't forgive that.
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He was sulking so badly Di Matteo cut short his celebrations to console him on the flight home.

Where did you hear that?

Sarri got his subs completely wrong. No one talking about it.

Why the hell did he sub in Fabregas is a riddle. Later he put on Barkley who was the most obvious. Why he forgot Giroud completely is another riddle.

Torres never tried, his attitude was disgusting,
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I wouldn't go that far. He had certain games where he definitely wasn't trying, you could see it from a mile away, but (IMO) it was more that he felt he was doing what was best for the team by avoiding the ball. It was a case of him realizing he was a burden with the ball and thereby tried making spaces for players who could actually do something, was sad more than disappointing tbh.

Thing with Morata, and this is where I kind of get Biggish's point, is you see (least I do) a player whose actively taking part in transitions, but when nothing comes off he's not adapting. It's the same routine of win cheap free kicks, make pointless passes which break down moves, moan and whine at the referee, etc... much as Morata actually operates like a proper CF, at least Torres had the shame to know he was trash. It sounds hauntingly sad but it's true

Speaking of Torres, I watched a quick YouTube documentary on his career the other day, apparently he started out as a GK in his youth until Atletico's manager saw his natural pace and eye of a finish and decided he was wasted in net.

Gotta say that explains a lot about his outfield style and unrelenting capacity to doubt himself at every opportunity. He was always technically stunted, even in his prime was very harsh with the ball, it's cos he never properly trained as an outfield player as a kid