Carvalho and Gallas

Gallas is debatable. Great CB in his prime years and versatile too, but in the best of the PL era conversation? I dunno about that. Definitely top 20, maybe top 15 depending what you value in a defender.

Carvalho yes, but to be fair most people acknowledge their oversight when you bring him up. Def top 10, was a 2/3 year stretch between 04-07 when he was as good as any CB in the PL era.

Devils i would say the Gallas of the back to back years most certainly. Carvalho to Jose was what Jorginho is to Sarri and he still regularly dropped him because of Gallas.

I think maybe them being in competition with eachother then a relatively early decline for both (Gallas at Arsenal and Ricky post Euro 2008) may count against them compared to JT, Rio and Vidic who were undisputed starters and went on into their 30's (well into in JT's case).

I actually felt that Carvalho and Gallas made Terry look better than he was.

Possibly not a popular opinion!

If someone suggested carvalho as the top cb the league has had i wouldnt laugh at them, the guy was a class act

Well Gallas definitely wasn’t one of the best PL CBs around which is why he doesn’t get a mention.

Carvalho as far as I know is extremely highly rated by most people. I personally thought that he was the best PL CB at one stage but the irony was Chelsea fans would call people bitter for ranking Carvalho over JT as if it was intended to be an insult

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
I actually felt that Carvalho and Gallas made Terry look better than he was.

Possibly not a popular opinion!
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I disagree, ofcourse he benefited from such a partner but given he went and won the league again aged 34 with Gary Cahill as his partner i think it's safe to say he would have coped playing with almost anyone back then.

Gallas at Chelsea is arguably the best I’ve ever seen. Longevity goes against him though

comment by Bats (U18355)
posted 3 hours, 44 minutes ago
Well Gallas definitely wasn’t one of the best PL CBs around which is why he doesn’t get a mention.

Carvalho as far as I know is extremely highly rated by most people. I personally thought that he was the best PL CB at one stage but the irony was Chelsea fans would call people bitter for ranking Carvalho over JT as if it was intended to be an insult
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I rated Carvalho higher than Terry through certain stages

I think Gallas was better than carvahlo for the short time he played cb with jt. It’s very close

Devils i would say the Gallas of the back to back years most certainly. Carvalho to Jose was what Jorginho is to Sarri and he still regularly dropped him because of Gallas.
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Curious you say Carvalho was Jose's Jorginho? The linchpin to Jose's teams functioning effectively has always been the midfielder who breaks into the oppositions defensive zone from deep - Deco, Lampard, Sneijder, etc... think part of the reason Jose failed with us & United was the lack of a player who could do that consistently. Never really had one with us and it was meant to be Pogba at United. Among other things clearly but that's one reason that's commonly overlooked.

It's always been a tactical curiosity for me that offensive minded managers generally rely on a defensive player to hold everything together and defensive managers typically have attacking players as their linchpins. One of many things that makes the tactical aspects of football so interesting.