Achievements?
What I mean is, will 3rd place and a couple of cup finals be the minimum achievement in your eyes to justify some fans (of which I’m in a minority on this platform) wanting Sarri gone?
For me whoever the replacement is (and especially if it’s Super Frank) I will look more at the direction I believe the Manager is taking us (or trying to) – I certainly think if it is Super Frank and he does bring Jody with him, there’s a very good chance the Academy will be given more than a fair chance.
But I also think and it’s just my opinion, the team rumoured to be coming back “get" Chelsea and the fans. I know that’s not 100% essential but I think he’ll have Jose level adoration and backing from the fans, even if things are going tough but he won’t bring any ill feeling towards the club.
Will you judge Sarri's replacement by Sarri
posted on 20/6/19
For a start some match going fans did boo him yes - but did all? And I'll guarantee you that a large proportion of our board on JA were posting offensive comments about him as well, so it wasn't confined to match going fans, who in my opinion over the many yesrs have been the most tolerant in the higher leagues in football.
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I will back Mons here when it comes to the general feeling of disappointment towards our own fans sometimes.
It's really hard. On the one hand we're the fans who stuck behind Mourinho when most of us knew he'd lost the plot, to a lesser extent Conte aswell. But on the other we're the fans who are so damn quick to run managers we don't like out of town - Grant, Scolari, AVB, Benitez (that one understandable granted), Sarri, etc... it's like we have no patience, but once you've proven yourself, you're one of us type of thing. It's all a bit intense and reactionary, and probably doesn't help that the club equally have no patience either.
posted on 20/6/19
Benitez was a special case, the board must have known the feelings of resentment towards him and must shoulder the blame for that.
Grant, Scolari and AVB as far as I remember were never at the end of some of the treatment I heard Sarri receive.
However that's not the bone of contention I have with Mons comment. It implies that it's the match day fans that are specifically responsible for hounding him out.
Now I'm a match going fan as much as I can be nowadays, I regularly attend matches with Summer 69, JFDI, and their circle of friends - none of whom I ever hear booing at matches, on the contrary some of them never stop singing.
So to put the blame on matchday fans is a little hypocritical as far as I'm concerned, especially when you read the comments of some non match going fans on here, who's voice will never be heard at a match - and we all know who they are!
Guess I'm just not a fan of stereotyping!
posted on 20/6/19
And I'd just like to add to that, that I've personally never boo'd any one or the team at a Chelsea match, even on the end of some horrendous results in Division 2.
Even Benitez, whom I was vehemently against the appointing off, I never boo'd, just never sand his name!
posted on 20/6/19
Oh ok. Yeah I agree with that. Certainly isn't just the match going fans who have no patience. No sir
posted on 20/6/19
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posted on 20/6/19
Nobody is universally liked, and in terms of characters, our fans have most endeared themselves to the extroverted, punchy personalities of Mourinho and Conte, so I can accept that many of the fanbase are likely to not take to Sarri as they would others; but reading some flimsy superficial reason to vilify him with has been really ugly to see this season.
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So much this
posted on 20/6/19
but reading some flimsy superficial reason to vilify him with has been really ugly to see this season.
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6-0 vs Man City
4-0 vs Bournemouth
Not playing RLC and Hudson Odoi until the last two months of the season
Misusing Kante
etc. etc.
Plenty of reasons to be against Sarri.
I don't think he was terrible, but let's not pretend he was flawless. He did an OK to average job overall and got a decent amount of luck towards the end of the season. Won't miss him at all and think it would have gone wrong for him in the end if he hadn't left.
posted on 20/6/19
I don't have patience for persistent questionable judgement, unfairness, dishonesty, wishy-washy indefensible remarks, lack of competent squad management, lack of foresight, inflexibility, predictable stale patterns/automatisms, inexcusable self-defeating actions...
8 months was enough of a gauge for Sarri to lose my support on the basis of all those wrongdoings/failings mentioned above and realise that he shouldn't be in position to oversee any sort of rebuilding process going forward.
That's my stance, onto the next.
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posted on 20/6/19
Now I'm a match going fan as much as I can be nowadays, I regularly attend matches with Summer 69, JFDI, and their circle of friends - none of whom I ever hear booing at matches, on the contrary some of them never stop singing.
So to put the blame on matchday fans is a little hypocritical as far as I'm concerned, especially when you read the comments of some non match going fans on here, who's voice will never be heard at a match - and we all know who they are!
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Well said Brummie. Like you I have never booed a Chelsea player or manager in all my years, but there are some on here that think that they and their bigoted opinions are far more important to the Club than any match-going fan is. Fortunately we know it's all bollox.