Players or Director ?

"We have to be smart with signings as we can no longer take the risks we took before. We have to make sure if we sign 5 players, 4 are a success"

You dont think the club have allways expected that ?

CIC, write your own pros andnxons list. I'd be really interested to see if you can come up with more pros than cons.

We already have that structure. Scouts, Ole, Laurel and Hardy

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Fixed it for you

To be honest, I do not want to list again what I think the pros are. I've done so already.

You say we have a structure. We'll, it has failed. It failed for LVG and for Jose. Having a TD or DoF might help getting the right signings into place weeks or months before the transfer window opens. We reportedly made late bids for players like Kante and Brandt. We could avoid such missteps in the future.

You say the players weren't good enough. Most of our signings under Woodward have fell into that group. The structure clearly isn't working.

Well, Poch was a "lesser" manager when we hired LVG. Tuchel was one before the Dortmund job. Same with Klopp. Established managers such as LVG and Mourinho failed and they were established managers with their own style. So clearly we need to look for the right person, not just reputation.

Style of play is important in that it will allow us to recruit managers and players with that in mind. Whether it will be a success or not would be determined by the level of players and managers that come in. It would at least reduce the amount if players we bring in and fail and then to be shipped out after a season or two.

You sound like you are asking for nothing to change and hope for the best (we've been waiting 6 years now) in case anything new fails. Your method requires us to luck out with the right manager and have Ed and Judge do much better than they have done so far in order for it to succeed. And when that manager leaves we're back to a SAF-Moyes-LVG-Jose situation.

It also requires Ed to ignore the commercial aspect of any signings as the main aspect should be getting in the right players with talent.

"Having a TD or DoF might help getting the right signings into place weeks or months before the transfer window opens" - How so ?

You blame the structure for signings not being good enough. Doesnt the majority of that come.doen to the managers who targeted then, and the players themselves?

You mention Klopp, Poch, Tuchel, all good young coaches at the time. But could they have handled thebleessure of such a huge club? SAF has spoken many times about the pressure attached to the club.

The turnover of players depends on how successful signings are (good or bad) no matter if you have a DOF or not.

All it takes is for the right managerial appointment and a lot of these issues fall away. I didnt want Moyes, L G ir Jose, although I think Jose was the obvious choice at the time.

It’s like Groundhog Day with RDD.

comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 11 minutes ago
It’s like Groundhog Day with RDD.
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Another great contribution fella

comment by Super Ed (U22147)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 11 minutes ago
It’s like Groundhog Day with RDD.
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Another great contribution fella
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Thanks.

"Having a TD or DoF might help getting the right signings into place weeks or months before the transfer window opens" - How so ?
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They'd be able to focus on this while the headcoach/manager focuses on the team. They'd be able to lay the ground works and liase with agents before Judge or Ed come into the picture.
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You blame the structure for signings not being good enough. Doesnt the majority of that come.doen to the managers who targeted then, and the players themselves?
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If it's down to the Manager, then the one hiring them needs to go. Afterwards we'll have to build up a structure to make sure we have more success than failure when hiring managers and signing players.

I don't think it is personally.
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You mention Klopp, Poch, Tuchel, all good young coaches at the time. But could they have handled thebleessure of such a huge club? SAF has spoken many times about the pressure attached to the club.
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Who knows. Big coaches have failed and they have pointed the finger not at the pressure but at the structure in place at the club.
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The turnover of players depends on how successful signings are (good or bad) no matter if you have a DOF or not.
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They also depend on what the manager wants. Lukaku, first choice for Jose, doesn't suit Ole's style. Now expecting to be sold (possibly at a loss). Blind at CB is another. Suited LVG's system but not wanted by Jose as he wasn't what suited his. Success isn't solely based on the player. The turnover could be aimed at tye haphazard approach to hiring managers, which result in a scattergun approach to signings.
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All it takes is for the right managerial appointment and a lot of these issues fall away. I didnt want Moyes, L G ir Jose, although I think Jose was the obvious choice at the time.
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That is short term thinking. It works if we go out and pay whatever to get the manager's first choice and sell who he doesn't. And that's if we get in the right manager in the first place, whatever his reputation may be. That's why we're in the current predicament in the first place and now have come full circle to why a DOF might be a better long term approach to such short term and naive thinking.