Arsenal to offer Xhaka counselling

We as fans have been right surfers over this. There've been idiots on his wife's instagram page giving it large, so it's not just a few boos on the pitch. Imagine trying your genuine best every game only to get that reaction. I don't think he's good enough either, but there's limits to how one should react to it. And don't give me the "paying customer" argument, or that the fans are the boss. We're allowed our opinions and to express them, but if my boss treated us all like that, someone would pretty quickly do a Gus Poyet. Try clicking your fingers at a bar man and see if you get served, let alone ironically cheering when they get around to you in a busy bar and then booing them if they take too long for your fancy.

Having said that, as club captain you can't do that. Imagine Tony Adams throwing the shirt to the ground after telling the fans to eff off. Unthinkable. Xhaka has an awful lot to apologise for and, if he doesn't, he needs selling in January.

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 3 hours, 12 minutes ago
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 23 seconds ago
Castor calling the fan base toxic...

Talk about pot, kettle, black

Tamwolf, you're correct about the insulting. Players should have to put up with no more than critique of their performance. In this case though, that's exactly what Xhaka got. His reaction started near the middle of the pitch, where no one individual insult would have been audible. He'd have heard nothing but a cacophony of noise which was audibly negative. I think you're wrong on the reaction though. There is (IMO) a distinct caviat to players responding to negativity.

As a player, if you've played decently, but fans mad at manager boo you. Then by all means tell said fans to get stuffed (even manager call em out about it post match too). Every right to stand up to the unwarranted. But if you're playing poorly, ergo negativity about your performance is justified. Then shut the hell up and be humble at least. You DON'T insult the fans. Because you already done that when you picked up ya 120k that week, for costing those fan's team a result.

Xhaka has been rubbish thus far and personally directly responsible for losses. Therefore he IS directly culpable so should man up and face failings. No love lost here for our more moronic, drowning in negativity, Wenger baby fans. But on this one it is the player and only the player whose actions were just plain wrong. Sad thing here is that he probably could have gotten all/most fans back onside by simply being humble, apologising to fans for poor performances and committing to being better. They'd still think he was a crap player. But people appreciate that sort of thing (fans especially actually) and it'd have bought him some time. Instead now the fans think he's crap AND a total ass hole to boot.

Helps us out anyway, he's off in Jan. Shame it had to be like this though. Would have been great if he could have sorted it out and us gotten to see 5 or 6 screamer "KO anyone in it's path" shots a season. They're football's coolest thing. Or one of 'em anyway.
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Difference between criticising players and the manager on a forum than booing our own players at the emirates or being abusive at them and their family

Giroulski.

Drop enough money behind the bar mate and the staff'll put up with whatever you tell em to. Don't be a tool about it though or they'll spit in ya drinks

My comments were purely in regard to the booing off the pitch. The insta stuff and the like is bang out of order. Come match day, you step on that pitch and don't represent. The fans who paid to see you have the right to show you their discontent. To say they can't is effectively saying "So what if ya paid a fortune. Ya get what ya given so shut up and be happy about it." That's rude. Both the player and the manager have brought the fact they need telling by the fans upon themselves. Xhaka for failing to improve in years (Not like Gooners didn't give him a tonne of time). And Emery for actually being dumb enough to name a player the fans already had no faith in as his captain. I actually think the booing was more for Emery anyway. Fans wanted it made clear Xhaka is the wrong choice for them.

All that said, not quite as irritated will Xhaka's response, now you've said about social media. Hate the stuff mostly myself and don't use it, so I forget about ye ole troll. I still think he'd have done better to walk off head down then post match, do an interview, apologising for being poor, promising to do better. Then telling fans straight, "you wanna slate me go ahead but leave my family alone." Trolls would still be trolls but the fans who are just mad he's being rubbish, would find both understanding in and respect for, him doing that.

Sherrif.

One team has good "upstairs" organisation but their new SOA stadium cut the money off quite some time ago. Team required further investment for short term goal of winning major honours. Levy sacrificed it for long term investment of super stadium.

The other, well stadium ain't SOA anymore but it's all paid for. Their problem is that where the lot mentioned above have good "upstairs" this lot got a PT Barnum subsidiary. Run by back room cash grabber, his ringmaster kid and some Spanish performing seal they brought with 'em.

Mou would kill these weak men.

Modern football fans are entitled pathetic brats.They remind me of 3 year old children,whining and crying 'cos they can't get what they want - NOW! First it was all Ozils fault,then Emery's,now Xhaka..Try having some patience and direct your boos to players who are not trying,NOT players who clearly love the club but are off form.

comment by Kante's Dad-Heavy Jumbo (U20563)
posted 21 hours, 22 minutes ago
Mou would kill these weak men.
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Can you imagine his post match rant on MOTD slating the players

comment by Tyke (U9181)
posted 19 hours, 56 minutes ago
Modern football fans are entitled pathetic brats.They remind me of 3 year old children,whining and crying 'cos they can't get what they want - NOW! First it was all Ozils fault,then Emery's,now Xhaka..Try having some patience and direct your boos to players who are not trying,NOT players who clearly love the club but are off form.

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Xhaka is well into his 4th year here.

comment by 🇬🇧🇬🇧 Emperor Kami 🇬🇧🇬🇧 (U9880)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
Xhaka should not apologise. The fans should. We should be ashamed of ourselves. Embarrassed.

We abuse him and then cry when he answers back.

You simply do not boo your own players. There is a reason we have a poor reputation as a fanbase.

Robbie should kick the likes of DT and Troopz out of his channel as they are using his platform to promote themselves. They arent real arsenal fans. If they were then they wouldn't use the channel to abuse players, rant and embarrass the fans and club.
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That troopz fella is a joke, contradicts himself on a regular basis

comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by 🇬🇧🇬🇧 Emperor Kami 🇬🇧🇬🇧 (U9880)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
Xhaka should not apologise. The fans should. We should be ashamed of ourselves. Embarrassed.

We abuse him and then cry when he answers back.

You simply do not boo your own players. There is a reason we have a poor reputation as a fanbase.

Robbie should kick the likes of DT and Troopz out of his channel as they are using his platform to promote themselves. They arent real arsenal fans. If they were then they wouldn't use the channel to abuse players, rant and embarrass the fans and club.
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That troopz fella is a joke, contradicts himself on a regular basis
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Last week he was supporting Emery big time. One poor result and it’s like he’s hated Emery as manager for months

He’s beyond fickle