Back on the road today and a trip to the crown ground for a first ever league meeting between the 2 sides. There was a cup game in 1926 which Bolton won 1-0 but this is a game Bolton fans have been looking forward to for a long time. Tickets have been like gold dust, the wanderers Facebook group have regularly been asking for tickets. Accrington Stanley who are they? Well we know ian rush never played for them. Originally formed in 1891, folded in 1966, reformed in 1968, returned to the football league in 2006, promoted to league one in 2018. Modern day Accrington are one of boltons relegation rivals, 19th with 14 points separating the clubs, looks a big gap but with Keith hills side on a 3 match winning run, 3 games in hand anything is possible. I don't want to say much about the midweek shenanigans apart from a decision has been made about Bolton's punishment for missing the Brentford and Doncaster games and time to move on. Unfortunately certain people at the EFL still want to keep putting the boot in. We've been kicked enough largely due to the efls incompetency so time to drop it. Team news. No new injuries reported and no news of returns from injury but Keith keeps these things under his cap anyway. I don't think this will be easy today so maybe a draw will be a good result? An omen. Both our twin towns paderborn and le mans drew 3-3 yesterday. Can we cope with the ups and downs of a 3-3 draw today?
posted on 30/11/19
comment by SUPERWHITEINEXILE (U2020)
posted 1 day ago
Does anyone know when we will know our fate regarding the EFL's decision to appeal the penalty handed out for not playing the two games?
I meet another Wanderers fan every Thursday up in Lancaster. He said that the EFL has appointed another independent committee to review our fate. Does anyone know if there is any truth in that?
If that is correct, if they don't get the result that they want this time, they could presumably carry on changing the committee until they get what they want.
My question is, why did they not levy the punishment themselves? They obviously are not being open-handed about the matter, so why not just do exactly what they wanted?.
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Sections 8 and 9 of the EFL Regulations cover this: you can read it on the EFL website. The disciplinary commission imposed a suspended 5 point penalty which lapse after 18 months as long as we don't fail to fulfil any more fixtures. The EFL thinks this was too lenient and has appealed to the arbitration panel. The panel has three members, one nominated by each party (ie EFL and BWFC each nominate one member) and the third by the Chartered Institute of Arbitrators. This appears to be the final level of the appeal process within the EFL Regulations. The Regs say the panel's decision is final and binding and the parties waive any right to take it further (eg to court) but how enforceable that rule is I don't know ... you would have to ask a court to accept jurisdiction I suppose.
posted on 30/11/19
Sections 8 and 9 of the EFL Regulations cover this: you can read it on the EFL website. The disciplinary commission imposed a suspended 5 point penalty which lapse after 18 months as long as we don't fail to fulfil any more fixtures. The EFL thinks this was too lenient and has appealed to the arbitration panel. The panel has three members, one nominated by each party (ie EFL and BWFC each nominate one member) and the third by the Chartered Institute of Arbitrators. This appears to be the final level of the appeal process within the EFL Regulations. The Regs say the panel's decision is final and binding and the parties waive any right to take it further (eg to court) but how enforceable that rule is I don't know ... you would have to ask a court to accept jurisdiction I suppose.
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So, It would seem that the EFL is breaking its own rules. That being the case we should point out the respective rule and demand that the appeal is squashed and the disciplinary commissions ruling should be upheld.
Any D.C. worth its salt would dismiss the appeal out of hand.No organisation should be allowed to ride rough-shod over its own rules.
To put it bluntly, the EFL is not fit for purpose. It is just trying to appease a few clubs that want to save themselves from relegation at the cost to our club.
posted on 2/12/19
The way I interpret your friend in Lancaster's comment, he is referring to the arbitration panel. That would make sense with the regulations: we are at the stage where the disciplinary commission has given its decision, one of the parties is dissatisfied so they appeal to the arbitration panel.
I don't know what the time scales are at this stage: whether it's days or weeks. Obviously needs to be before the closing weeks of the season where relegation for someone is confirmed, assuming we are in a league position where five points makes a difference.
In a way I can understand the EFL's position: if we get away with a slapped wrist for unilaterally calling a game off that will be seized on as a precedent by other clubs: the league wants to discourage this as forcefully as possible or we could descend into postponement anarchy.
posted on 3/12/19
I see your point but it's very disappointing when the EFL has appointed a panel to set the penalty and then want to go against it. I can see us at least having the further 5 points deducted and the fine being levied on the club.
We still have enough games to escape relegation but it isn't going to be easy, especially after our 7-1 drubbing at Accrington.
posted on 3/12/19
I'm sticking with the original ruling was correct a slap on the wrist and fine for the Donny game and everything else is covered by the admin 12 points or out of time maybe a bit of a added fine if they insist.
posted on 4/12/19
I hope that you are correct. I still don't know if the same panel is looking at the appeal. If it is, I hope that it sticks to its original findings. It wouldn't look good if it changes its original decision at the behest of the EFL.
posted on 4/12/19
The u18s get in on the act conceding 7 at home to Millwall. https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2019/december/report-bolton-wanderers-u18s-vs.-millwall-u18s/ The official website while informing us bolton are out of the cup seems reluctant to give us the actual scoreline.
posted on 5/12/19
Let's hope that it is just a blip. otherwise, someone needs to get a serious grip quickly.
posted on 5/12/19
A few things. Not sure what this means long term for the club, seems a certain level of debt left in the club. https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/18083412.bolton-wanderers-report-reveals-details-administration/ Fleetwood away in the Micky mouse cup if we get past accrington. Finally don't seek out the bassini video doing the rounds. Might need counselling if you do.
posted on 6/12/19
It would seem that FV still has large hurdles to get over. It's to be hoped that there is money in the bank and some goodwill on the part of the creditors.
Of course, there will not be any goodwill from Mr. Anderson.
It all goes down to Eddie Davies who promised to sell the club to someone who could take it onwards and upwards.