Just out, restrictions and bans on big events extended to September 1st. This includes football matches. Playing matches without public not allowed either. League could be finished after September 1st, but this is not going to happen.
Dutch FA now deciding how to end the league at the current standings and decide who will be champion, relegation, promotion and CL/EL spots. FA cup final also cancelled.
Wow.
It is particularly crap, because in our current form, before lock down, we could have won the league and we were already in the cup final. Could have done the double.
Dutch league cancelled
posted on 23/4/20
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 20 minutes ago
No bias from me pal, my opinion is based purely on common sense, despite what the Mousers and Don like to think
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posted on 23/4/20
comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 17 minutes ago
Whoah! That's fair enough mate.
Except that people don't feel like they're attacking you, they're just like, making a point. Bias does not necessarily mean you're wrong. It would be dishonest of me to suggest I'm not biased, I am. At the very start I really thought it would be voided but looking at all info, facts and figures that have come out since, you realise it's nowhere near that easy to just void a season. Its a worst case scenario IMO but still possible of course.
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posted on 23/4/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 5 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 6 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 15 hours, 16 minutes ago
Whatever happens someone, somewhere, will be hard done by. If we accept this now then the decisions that we're proposing become a lot easier.
No matter what happens there will be some moral or legal issue. So if this shiiiiiiiiiiit carries on until Feb 2021 then the obvious thing to do is just restart on March 13th or something and carry on but then you have issues with contracts.
If we can get playing by July just play behind closed doors but then there's H&S issues but then when do we start next season?
If it goes to say October or further then my gut says just void it but that's a killer for some clubs, mine included, and then when do we actually start next season anyway?
If we finish as it stands that's a killer for some clubs and then when do we actually start next season anyway?
Fact is the finish is only as relevant as when next season starts really and unless it gets locked off before August then there are about a billion player contract issues.
Working out when next season starts, and therefore the issue is covid, is as relevant as when this gets finished and right now we're not allowed to sit on a fvcking bench outside.
From what I understand there is absolutely going to be a relapse for want of better words, it will mutate and a vaccine will ve as much use as the current flu one. I was reading that when all is done in a couple of years the death rates will be the same everywhere. No politics, countries will just manage their deaths rates differently as it's inevitable and herd immunity is the only answer.
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herd immunity is the only answer. - no it isnt
https://www.sciencealert.com/why-herd-immunity-will-not-save-us-from-the-covid-19-pandemic
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A fantastic example if confirmation bias. Have you actually read the article?
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Did you? I did. So I should believe some numpty on a football forum over an epidemiologist working in chronic disease? What so wrong about what he says then? Lets hear it from the nurse, who didnt study viral diseases and epidemics.
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Either you've not read it or you don't understand it which is fine.
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Dodging a reply. Means you have no clue yourself.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 14 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 59 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52387971
More plans being made for season restart.
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Dowden said that this was "preparatory work" to see what would work "in practice", rather than getting ready for any imminent developments.
On the public perception that the return of sport would produce, Dowden said: "I would just want to make sure that the signals we were sending from that were consistent with the signals that we were sending to the public more broadly.
"So I think it is sensible at this stage to have the engagement, to think through it, but I've been clear in all the conversations I've had that all of this is without prejudice so let's do the work and then we will make the decision at the appropriate point - clearly, number one, in accordance with the scientific evidence."
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Says it all really. Just because you plan for an eventuality doesn't make it more likely to happen.
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Who said it did?
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So what was the point of your post then? We both know it was an attempt to strengthen the view that the season will restart.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 14 hours, 10 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 59 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52387971
More plans being made for season restart.
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Dowden said that this was "preparatory work" to see what would work "in practice", rather than getting ready for any imminent developments.
On the public perception that the return of sport would produce, Dowden said: "I would just want to make sure that the signals we were sending from that were consistent with the signals that we were sending to the public more broadly.
"So I think it is sensible at this stage to have the engagement, to think through it, but I've been clear in all the conversations I've had that all of this is without prejudice so let's do the work and then we will make the decision at the appropriate point - clearly, number one, in accordance with the scientific evidence."
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Says it all really. Just because you plan for an eventuality doesn't make it more likely to happen.
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Who said it did?
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So what was the point of your post then? We both know it was an attempt to strengthen the view that the season will restart.
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Of course it was to strengthen the view that the season will restart.
There's a couple of nutjobs here saying there's no chance the season will restart. I posted several pieces of evidence that they have at this point in time plans for it to restart.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 5 hours, 53 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 6 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 15 hours, 16 minutes ago
Whatever happens someone, somewhere, will be hard done by. If we accept this now then the decisions that we're proposing become a lot easier.
No matter what happens there will be some moral or legal issue. So if this shiiiiiiiiiiit carries on until Feb 2021 then the obvious thing to do is just restart on March 13th or something and carry on but then you have issues with contracts.
If we can get playing by July just play behind closed doors but then there's H&S issues but then when do we start next season?
If it goes to say October or further then my gut says just void it but that's a killer for some clubs, mine included, and then when do we actually start next season anyway?
If we finish as it stands that's a killer for some clubs and then when do we actually start next season anyway?
Fact is the finish is only as relevant as when next season starts really and unless it gets locked off before August then there are about a billion player contract issues.
Working out when next season starts, and therefore the issue is covid, is as relevant as when this gets finished and right now we're not allowed to sit on a fvcking bench outside.
From what I understand there is absolutely going to be a relapse for want of better words, it will mutate and a vaccine will ve as much use as the current flu one. I was reading that when all is done in a couple of years the death rates will be the same everywhere. No politics, countries will just manage their deaths rates differently as it's inevitable and herd immunity is the only answer.
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herd immunity is the only answer. - no it isnt
https://www.sciencealert.com/why-herd-immunity-will-not-save-us-from-the-covid-19-pandemic
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A fantastic example if confirmation bias. Have you actually read the article?
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Did you? I did. So I should believe some numpty on a football forum over an epidemiologist working in chronic disease? What so wrong about what he says then? Lets hear it from the nurse, who didnt study viral diseases and epidemics.
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Either you've not read it or you don't understand it which is fine.
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Dodging a reply. Means you have no clue yourself.
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Sigh. If you were half as bright as you think you are you'd be dangerous. That whole article is about herd immunity as a preventative measure which has precisely nothing to do with what I have written.
Now you're probably drunk again but please dont drag me into your attention seeking bollox, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about as usual.
posted on 23/4/20
You said herd immunity is the only answer The article I linked said herd immunity is not the answer.
posted on 23/4/20
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 9 minutes ago
You said herd immunity is the only answerThe article I linked said herd immunity is not the answer.
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I can only explain it to you, I can't make you understand.
Yiu dont even know what the question is!
Grab another dtink and pipe down kid.
posted on 23/4/20
Calm down, no need for all the typos. I just quoted you. You seem to have trouble understanding your own words. Bye lad, I am no Winston, I cannot go on for days here.
posted on 23/4/20
It's fine. You got it wrong and wildly out of context after barging in and not reading my post properly.
I clearly wrote in 2 years time and you posted an article about prevention now which is irrelevant.
You can apologise if you want.