UEFA Directives

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 6 minutes ago
in my eyes the championship teams having good seasons take priority over the 3 prem ones having bad seasons, if it was to come to that game.
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Indeed a difficult balance to call. But again there are no certain winners there. who says who goes up?
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Sporting merit perhaps. Same way the CL places would be decided in the prem is the same way they decide promotion, assuming that's what happens.

My basis is simple. You cannot relegate teams that are mathematically not down Nor can you promote teams that are not mathematically certain of going up.
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Is this not off the table now?

If they choose to use Sporting merit to decide the league, I assume this will not be the case. Also, if they use points per game then it won't be the case.

What I'm tryna say is this rule does not seem to be in the consideration of the football powers.

However, your suggestion is sound, it's your rationale that I disagreed with. You started with relegation teams but I agree with your conclusion except that perhaps we really should consider expanding the league temporarily.

I hope the season can just be played out. Avoids all the mess and gets us watching football again. Needs to get started soon though.

I find UEFAs position slightly alarming though. YEs they are rightly planning to complete their comps, but actually these should be the first things to go if its clear that holding them comprosies finishing this season and having a full 20/21 season. Their focus seems very self centred but then again they are a massive business.

comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 1 minute ago
My basis is simple. You cannot relegate teams that are mathematically not down Nor can you promote teams that are not mathematically certain of going up.
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Is this not off the table now?

If they choose to use Sporting merit to decide the league, I assume this will not be the case. Also, if they use points per game then it won't be the case.

What I'm tryna say is this rule does not seem to be in the consideration of the football powers.

However, your suggestion is sound, it's your rationale that I disagreed with. You started with relegation teams but I agree with your conclusion except that perhaps we really should consider expanding the league temporarily.
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UEFA are only referring to who qualifies for their competitions. That is their only focus and really the only control they have. The EPL can do what they want but whether the EPL action satisfies UEFA in respect of who goes into the UCL/Europa is a different matter.

Yeah but UEFA are still forcing clubs to chose one option which once chosen will automatically and immediately bind and force the clubs to apply the same rule chosen for top 4 throughout the league to maintain fairness, no?

comment by Doggie Dog© (U22357)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
Yeah but UEFA are still forcing clubs to chose one option which once chosen will automatically and immediately bind and force the clubs to apply the same rule chosen for top 4 throughout the league to maintain fairness, no?
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Dont think i know of what you seapk.

UEFA's last statement was entitled: Executive Committee approves guidelines on eligibility for participation in UEFA competitions.

It is exactly that - Guidelines relating to to how clubs are selected to compete in next seasons UEFA s club competitions

Its easy to say but

the procedure for selecting clubs should be based on objective, transparent and non-discriminatory principles. National Associations and Leagues, should otherwise have the ability to decide the final positions in their domestic competitions, having regard to the specific circumstances of each competition

UEFA reserves the right to refuse or evaluate the admission to any club proposed by a National Association from a prematurely terminated domestic competition

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Statements like these found within the 'guidelines' make me think this is UEFA running the show and delegating powers to the leagues to award European places. Powers which can be taken away if the league fails to comply with the guidelines.

I think that's pretty conclusive.

Well the precedent has been set. No champions no promotions no relegations.

OK then.

comment by Andy Grays cc... Deano and Dalian remember utv (U4819)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Well the precedent has been set. No champions no promotions no relegations.
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Yep. The Dutch have got it right.

UEFA have said nothing yet about how national leagues should deal with internal championships. All they have said is how they think leagues should approach putting teams forwards for the next international competitions. They might hope leagues would use the same approach for internal competitions, but they haven't said it outright and I don't think they have the authority to.

The PL might nevertheless be tempted to follow the UEFA approach, but I doubt if they'd get the backing.

Fact is, relegation is a huge minus for any club, and I reckon promotion is not quite the same bonus. Take Leeds. They're looking likely (but by no means certain) for promotion. They're entitled to feel unhappy if they're denied the chance of it. But if they don't get it they are still in a good place. I'd back them to have a very good chance of promotion next year. What's more, they might have an even better team, which in turn might give them a better chance of staying up if they do get promoted.

Teams getting relegated though take a big hit. They almost always lose players and have to rebuild to some degree. Finances can be difficult. Few teams bounce straight back.

Bottom line. If the season can't complete, then the criteria for establishing promotion and relegation can't be met. Declaring it void is the only fair solution.