Marca have said we're in talks with Real Madrid to sign him, Apparently he's also changed his agent to Kia Joorabchian as well - https://twitter.com/CheGiaevara/status/1305450774932094977
posted on 14/9/20
How do you know he will replace Shaw?
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I don't, that's why I asked you the question. I'm not the one making assumptions.
posted on 14/9/20
It’s not much of a leap to think he’ll replace Shaw. All he has to do is stay fit.
posted on 14/9/20
comment by The Red Side™ (U11275)
posted 49 minutes ago
How do you know he will replace Shaw?
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I don't, that's why I asked you the question. I'm not the one making assumptions.
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Shaw is currently first choice.
posted on 14/9/20
comment by Donny The King van de Beek (U10026)
posted 48 minutes ago
It’s not much of a leap to think he’ll replace Shaw. All he has to do is stay fit.
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With our luck, he'll get injured at the same time as Shaw.
posted on 14/9/20
Madrid didn't sell Mata, he left at the end of his youth contract because he saw a clearer path into top flight football at Valencia than Madrid. Madrid tried repeatedly to convince him to stay, but Mata's old man was a pro footballer and advised him well.
Eto'o was another Madrid let go, but in his case it was because not doing so would have kicked off a new transfer war with Barcelona at a time Perez felt the team was sufficiently stocked in attack.
Negredo did pretty well for a while but then fell off a cliff. He was another, like Morata, who was bought back only so he could immediately be sold on at a profit.
Callejon is another who's had a pretty good career. 350 appearances for Napoli during arguably the second best period in the club's history is not bad at all.
posted on 14/9/20
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
Madrid didn't sell Mata, he left at the end of his youth contract because he saw a clearer path into top flight football at Valencia than Madrid. Madrid tried repeatedly to convince him to stay, but Mata's old man was a pro footballer and advised him well.
Eto'o was another Madrid let go, but in his case it was because not doing so would have kicked off a new transfer war with Barcelona at a time Perez felt the team was sufficiently stocked in attack.
Negredo did pretty well for a while but then fell off a cliff. He was another, like Morata, who was bought back only so he could immediately be sold on at a profit.
Callejon is another who's had a pretty good career. 350 appearances for Napoli during arguably the second best period in the club's history is not bad at all.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
posted on 15/9/20
Marcos Alonso, hardly a world beater, but another who's definitely had a decent enough career.
Dani Parejo, Borja Valero, Filipe Luis and Fabinho are other former Real Madrid players who've recently done well that immediately spring to mind.
Briefly put, there's loads, and many more plying their trade for mid-table Liga sides and in other leagues around Europe...understandably, not that many will be familiar names for PL fans, but you'd be surprised at just how many of them there are.
In fact, before the Barça academy's golden generation, Real Madrid's academy traditionally produced considerably more players for Spain's top leagues than Barça's. The success of Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets and co. sparked a fair bit of revisionism regarding the comparative merits of La Masia and what is nowadays termed La Fábrica (a name I personally loathe).
posted on 15/9/20
Dani Parejo, Borja Valero, Filipe Luis and Fabinho are other former Real Madrid players who've recently done well that immediately spring to mind.
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How could I have forgotten about Fabinho. I knew there'd be others.
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posted on 15/9/20
In fairness, many of them can't really be called 'academy products', as they were signed in their late teens and only spent one or two of their formative years with the club. Nevertheless, they do serve to illustrate that Madrid have indeed let go of a fair number of very useful players who were on their books at a young age.
As you yourself, or perhaps Daz, or both of you said, sometimes players are moved on because they don't fit in with the playing style at a given time and/or because we're overstocked in their positions at the time.
It's impossible to get it right every time, and just as any other club, we'll move players on who end up being better than the ones we kept for their respective positions.
Sometimes, other clubs will simply find a way of utilising them better.
Fabinho's is an interesting case in hand. We only ever had him on loan as an 18-year-old from Portuguese side Rio Ave. He was a Mendes client brought in for our reserve side because Mourinho didn't rate Carvajal.
We sold Carvajal to Bayer Leverkusen with a laughable buyback clause. Despite never having played a top flight game, he proved an instant hit and came third in the vote for best right-back in the BL that season.
Although Fabinho did really well for our reserves in the meantime, Mourinho left that year and we exercised the buyback on Carvajal, passing up on the Brazilian. That's when he moved on to Monaco, where Jardim I think it was moved him into the midfield, which is something I think we never tried ourselves.
posted on 15/9/20
La Masia is the most overrated academy system in world football. It’s like a cult.