Has anybody got any news? Any new ideas? The only one that has come from the SPL is Friday night football...it could work, in the central belt but making Dunfermline travel upto Aberdeen on a Friday is ridiculous, surely the ideas coming out of the SPL should be to improve the game and the spectacle for the fans.
How on earth is a Friday game infront of 6,000 going to improve our game? St. Johnstone V United, Hearts V Hibs, Dunfermline V Hearts/Hibs, Motherwell V Rangers/Celtic could all be Friday night games and would attract sizeable crowds, but how can Dunfermline fans finish work at 4, leave at 4.30, hit the Kingsway at rush hour then get up to Aberdeen in time for the football...it really goes to show how little the SPL think of the fans and our game in general.
They have to make the game more attractive to fans, and Friday night football 2 hours from home is not an answer, it really hasn't been thought through properly..the game isn't even on TV to offset the losses to the Dandies as a poor crowd arrive.
I'm all for experimenting to try and improve our game but coming up with ideas willy nilly for changes sake is ridiculous, it's driving fans away and if the SPL don't do something positive soon then they are going to loose more fans who seek out better entertainment at better prices.
Once again I do believe Friday football could work, but making a 4 hour round trip on a Friday night is crazy.
Come on Doncaster, use your brain and get it in gear otherwise you'll soon be out of a job.
What's happened to reconstruction?
posted on 29/9/11
it'd just introduce more poor teams into the SPL and no-one wants to see that
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East Fife have beaten Dunfermline and Aberdeen already this season - so the 'gulf' in class is not what some may suggest.
The size of the SPL is the problem because there is a huge fear factor going on because every team outside of the OF can quite easily be drawn into the relegation zone after just a few poor results.
Take Aberdeen - supposedly they are having a nightmare season - but I think they are only 4 points behind DUFC and Killie.
We simply cant afford to lose clubs like Aberdeen, Hibs United etc to relegation.
There are plenty teams that would add interest to the SPL if it was enlarged; Dundee, Raith, Falkirk, Partick Thistle etc
The point you make about an increase in the number of teams is an assumption. What we KNOW now is that a poll of supporters showed that over 80% wanted to extend the number of the teams in the league. What we also KNOW is that season ticket sales and attendances are in decline year-on-year. That is surely down to the fact that the fans are not getting what they want.
You can't say it is 'unworkable' because we had a larger top league before and it DID work.
posted on 29/9/11
"That is surely down to the fact that the fans are not getting what they want."
Or perhaps due to no-one having any money anymore?
Seriously, you can say it all you like, but people will not turn out in their numbers more to see Raith Rovers than they already do. I worked it out a while back, to compensate for the fewer games and fewer games against big teams, a club like Motherwell would need on average to attract over 2500 extra fans every game just to break even compared to the 12-team league. You really think that'll happen? Another 2500 fans will turn up at Fir Park because they're only playing Hamilton once this season?
Twaddle.
posted on 29/9/11
Personally, I would be much happier to go along and see United play Raith, Dundee, Arbroath, Morton once a season as an alternative to a second home game against St Mirren, Hibs, Rangers, Celtic etc.
If the clubs can't aford to pay current wages then they will have to cut their cloth accordingly and pay their players less. They've been harping on about how football is a business for decades, in fact they never seem to tire of telling us that, so they should start acting like businesses and get their accounts in order pronto.
Many SPL clubs are heading towards administration/oblivion within the current format, so it needs to be changed to attract more punters back or it's 'game over' for some.
Personally, I hate what companies like Sky have done to football in my lifetime. It was so much better when we had terracing, atmosphere and great competitive games that were really open with both teams attacking each other and trying to win.
It was only when the SPL came into being that we encountered the 'fear factor' and teams started bringing every player back to defend corners and playing not to lose as opposed to playing to win.
Fair play to you Drunken - if you like what your watching, then you argue your case and stick with it.
Personally, my lifelong love affair with Dundee United and Scottish football looks like it's going to come to an end sooner rather than later.
posted on 29/9/11
Dont know how you can say theres nothing wrong with the size of our league at the moment hobo, its too big to play each other 4 times and not big enough to play each other twice . But its just the right size for 4 weegie derbies funny that. 18-20 team league, cheaper terraced areas, one scottish football organisation, and maybe a winter break or play league cup quarters and semis on a weekend.
posted on 29/9/11
Change doesn't mean cutting their income so drastically. If clubs are struggling at the moment (although many are on the road to recovery) then cutting their income by 1/3 is going to send them down the pan. Change for change's sake is not a good thing, especially if it means there's far less money to go around.
What's your criticism of the split Westcoast? I think it's a good solution as it cuts down on the number of meaningless mid-table clashes, as top 6 is a priority for every team that isn't a relegation candidate.
The reconstruction thing is just a distraction technique by the West Coast media (not blaming you westcoastarab ) from what the real problem in Scottish football is - the Old Firm. The refereeing is corrupt, there is no other word for it. The distribution of finances is ridiculous - 1/6th of the teams get 1/3 of the broadcasting income. They get away with singing illegal songs and tapping up players illegally but none of this ever gets a mention in the media - and when it does, it's to try and justify it. Increasing the size of the league would only make things worse.
posted on 29/9/11
Doncaster was at Norwich FC. When he left they got promoted two seasons running. Saw the light when this guy left their flailing business and they haven't looked back since.
If we only had to endure the OF twice a season it would open it up possibly for other teams. Not having to think about "must win" games against OF. Can't see anything wrong with that.
posted on 29/9/11
Arabs, i forgot that doncaster was at norwich........... look at them now in the EPL and sold 22,000 season tickets (a town about the same size as dundee) more than just a coinsidence i'd say, lets get him to f@ck.
All we need to do hobo is get rid of the old firm and were all laughing but i think the baggage they bring with them means no-one will have them.
posted on 29/9/11
Here they go again saying they want out: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15109851.stm
Why is no action taken against them for constantly whoring themselves out to England? All it's doing is demeaning our league for their own selfish gain... nothing new there I suppose.
posted on 29/9/11
Its amazing that they are still talking about moving South after that was **** canned by the english clubs.
I think Whyte is hoping they go into administration so he can close doors and then "move" the club to England...
As for the future of the Scottish game, I think Scottish clubs are being forced to compete with English clubs financially which is not viable and never has been, this in turn has created negative media and an increase in costs involved with going to matches (along with fuel costs etc etc) which has all led to a reduction in the attendances.Couple that with the stress of worrying if your team is going to go into administration or not and of course fewer people want to go. Football was (is) an entertainment, a release for the work stress not a new source of it.
posted on 29/9/11
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