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Did anyone used to do those football training sessions where they'd have one rule, like no running or no right foot?

Take away the ability to do something that you'd naturally do and football can be very tricky.

The idea that footballers need to play Premier League football with this 'must not raise your hands' idea is crazy.

Try doing it yourself.

If you look at the footage:

https://twitter.com/SkySportsPL/status/1310233322254217218?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1310233322254217218%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftalksport.com%2Ffootball%2F765725%2Fjamie-carragher-var-handball-tottenham-eric-dier-newcastle-sky-sports%2F


and then pause when the ball contacts Carrolls head, Diers arm is coming up but at that point of contact the arm is below shoulder height. Basically in the motion of jumping his arm is coming up, as is natural, as is Carrolls arm and like VVD in the other youtube video shared. . So its not any sort of reaction to stop the ball.

Jlou thinks Dier has invented the no-look handball

what annoys me is the 'referees are victims' that has now been said on 'ref watch' conveniently ignoring the car crash refs decision which led to the penalty. also the shouts for penalties the other end.

"Jlou thinks Dier has invented the no-look handball"

This is the crux of this particular debate, isn't it.

If your claim is that there's no reason for a hand to be above your head when challenging for the ball, then why is Dier's hand there?

Surely the only other option is that Dier put it there with the intention of affecting the ball?

Laughable.

Watching that VVD video just emphasises it. Time and time again, he jumps to head the ball and his arm comes out and in many cases, up above his shoulder.

I wish I could freeze frame some of the shots from the YouTube video - absolutely perfect examples.

Look at TAA vs City last season his arm was nearly 45 degrees away from his body. Even if its a marginal call for handball and not deliberate, Sterling was behind him to get on the end of that cross. The ball came from a distance so taking all that into consideration the use of his hand gave a massive advantage and it should not be allowed.....an advantage that lead to a LFC goal moments later.
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It was weird.

The ball clearly came off the hand of a City player first. It was very clear in the replays.

The most fair decision would have been a free kick for Liverpool. City player handled it first and attackers cannot benefit from handling the ball under the rules at that time.

VAR completely ignored it and said that TAAs hand was not in an unnatural position.

This just shows how sheet our officials are. They had a simple get out. Just say its not a penalty because a City player handled it first.

Instead they ignore that and then make the wrong decision because without a City player handling it first then its given as a penalty most times. How incompetent and stupid can they get?

The other thing the YouTube video is make a nonsense of the suggestion that the Leeds defender wouldn't have his arm up naturally, last week vs Liverpool.

The people making the laws of the game would do well to actually sit and watch footballers to understand what happens to your body when you play the game.

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
I wish I could freeze frame some of the shots from the YouTube video - absolutely perfect examples.
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Pause, and a screen shot if your on your phone. 👍

comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
I wish I could freeze frame some of the shots from the YouTube video - absolutely perfect examples.
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Pause, and a screen shot if your on your phone. 👍
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Yeh, sorry, I mean showing you on here though.

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Am I the only one who thinks that the Dier handball was a penalty? The ball goes over his head, he turns his head, watches the ball, and wobbles his arm about to stop it.
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Sheet,
Many agree that, under the new interpretation of the rule it was a hand-ball. Under the old interpretation of the rule, and certainly prior to VAR, it probably would not have been called as a penalty.

Until further notice, defenders need to be more alert to the fact that VAR is slowly taking over the role of the game referee.