On a night when the Ole doom mongers predicted a bad defeat and then public lynching of Gunnar, he stood tall like the great man he is. Calls for him to be sacked before kickoff have now been silenced. There can no longer be any questions of OGS as a manager. To go to arguably the best side in Europe away and produce that PROVES he is a top manager. I honestly think that a few people on here would've been devastated United won last night, hoping they'd lose so they could slaughter Gunnar.
The decisions in Paris were just of an elite level. To rest a few first team players and bring in the likes of Axel and McTominay was just marvelous. Speaking of Tuanzebe, I really do think alongside Maguire United have the new Ferdinand and Vidic partnership. Maguire has the technical prowess,the defensive quality and Tuanzebe brings that raw power that can't be stopped. He looked better than VVD last night and that's no exaggeration.
In midfield, more genius by Solksjaer stopped PSG playing whatsoever as prime Roy Keane and prime Paul Ince (Fred and McT) patrolled the midfield like a pair of T-1000's. The narrative on Fred changes now by the way. Often derided as useless, he absolutely marked Neymar out of the game to prove his quality. Anymore negativity about Fred will just mean you have no clue about football.
Up top, well the stage was set wasn't it? The two best youngsters in world football going head to head. Rashford vs Mbappe. Coca Cola vs Pepsi. Adidas vs Nike. Sky vs Virgin, or at the end of the night Ferrari vs Skoda . Rashford became a man last night and spanked Mbappe rotten. He's proven himself as the best young player in the world now on two occasions in the biggest club competition, so again not really up for debate.
Moving forward, I really wouldn't be surprised if United launch an assault on the title this season. Ole is breeding a winning mentality, the players are getting used to winning every week now and the title really is up for grabs.
FINALLY:
I saw a post on here yesterday, talking about their favourite horror movies of all time. Well last night I watched probably the greatest movie sequel ever.
A Norwegian In Paris Part 2
OLE REBORN
posted on 22/10/20
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 14 seconds ago
But yet sold/lost key parts of the team that nearly won that league, namely Suarez, Sterling and Gerrard. Again, no perspective whatsoever.
The market inflation wasn't "that" big, it's just United's awful transfer strategy for paying so many millions on these players.
If Mane was still at Southampton in 2019 and was at the level he was at when he was at Southampton, no I don't think he would have cost upwards of £70m. Nowadays, yes of course he would but that's because he is arguably one of, if not the best player in the league at the moment. Can't really compare him now to when he was first signed because he has come on leaps and bounds since then.
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Look at the team Klopp inherited:
Henderson
Milner
Coutinho
Lovren
Lallana
Firmino
Not even mentioning the decent players like
Sturridge (2015 version)
Sakho
Clyne
Skrtel
Lucas
Look at how many of those players were still there when they won the 4 trophies. LFC clearly still had a top quality team.
posted on 22/10/20
Origi too ^^
A player who saved Klopp's skin in 2019
posted on 22/10/20
Decent players like Sakho, Clyne, Skrtel and Lucas. In comparison to what he has now, they are liabilities really.
Literally only 3 of the players you have mentioned there have lasted in the Liverpool side, Henderson, Milner and Firmino and the likes of Firmino and Henderson at that time were nowhere near the levels they are playing at now.
I'm fed up now, go WUM somewhere.
posted on 22/10/20
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 4 seconds ago
Decent players like Sakho, Clyne, Skrtel and Lucas.In comparison to what he has now, they are liabilities really.
Literally only 3 of the players you have mentioned there have lasted in the Liverpool side, Henderson, Milner and Firmino and the likes of Firmino and Henderson at that time were nowhere near the levels they are playing at now.
I'm fed up now, go WUM somewhere.
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Oh yeah but all of the first list won UCL, EPL, USC and CWC medals and contributed.
posted on 22/10/20
Where is Coutinho's PL, CL, USC and CWC medals? Was he invisible when he contributed.
Also players like Lovren and Lallana were bit part players throughout. Milner was also more of a squad player really who came in when needed. The only 2 starters are Firmino and Henderson from the original side that he took over from, quite a contrast if you ask me.
posted on 22/10/20
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 3 minutes ago
Where is Coutinho's PL, CL, USC and CWC medals? Was he invisible when he contributed.
Also players like Lovren and Lallana were bit part players throughout. Milner was also more of a squad player really who came in when needed. The only 2 starters are Firmino and Henderson from the original side that he took over from, quite a contrast if you ask me.
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Coutinho has gone on to win plenty of medals at Barca and Bayern. Again you're proven wrong.
Also, Klopp did not want to sell Coutinho so again you're wrong.
posted on 22/10/20
I'm wrong, but you've said ALL the players in that top list have won all them trophies, which Coutinho hasn't. Couldn't care less what he's won at Barca or Bayern because that's not what you said.
Not about who he did/didn't want to sell. The fact is, he did and Liverpool actually became a better unit without Coutinho hence why they have been as strong as they have for the past couple of seasons.
posted on 22/10/20
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 30 seconds ago
I'm wrong, but you've said ALL the players in that top list have won all them trophies, which Coutinho hasn't. Couldn't care less what he's won at Barca or Bayern because that's not what you said.
Not about who he did/didn't want to sell. The fact is, he did and Liverpool actually became a better unit without Coutinho hence why they have been as strong as they have for the past couple of seasons.
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There were riots when you lot sold Coutinho. Klopp wanted to keep him and that's an absolute fact.
posted on 22/10/20
Not sure about riots, it was a disappointment but I think most trusted the process and when you reflect and see that effectively the Coutinho money bought both Van Djik and Alisson, most Liverpool fans were actually happy because it was the defence and goalkeeper positions that needed improving the most. Hardly missed Coutinho have they.
I didn't say he didn't "want" to keep him because I'm sure most managers would want to keep hold of their better players. But I'm sure the unanimous decision was that signing both Van Djik and Alisson by selling Coutinho, who wanted to leave, would be the better option. Turns out they were correct, that's why they earn their money.
posted on 22/10/20
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
Not sure about riots, it was a disappointment but I think most trusted the process and when you reflect and see that effectively the Coutinho money bought both Van Djik and Alisson, most Liverpool fans were actually happy because it was the defence and goalkeeper positions that needed improving the most. Hardly missed Coutinho have they.
I didn't say he didn't "want" to keep him because I'm sure most managers would want to keep hold of their better players. But I'm sure the unanimous decision was that signing both Van Djik and Alisson by selling Coutinho, who wanted to leave, would be the better option. Turns out they were correct, that's why they earn their money.
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Again more nonsense from you. After the 2018 UCL final, Alisson was signed after Karius' horror show. There were no reports of that transfer before Karius messed up. In effect, Alisson was a panic signing but luckily enough he's worked out for you.