Anyone got any funny stories about biased football fans in real life? My best mate's Dad was the most biased United fan i'd ever seen about 10/11 years ago. I remember in 2009 he was slaughtering Chelsea and literally named their entire starting XI in front of me, calling each of them overrated except Carvalho and Joe Cole. This was around February 2009 and he was adamant that United would win every competition that season.
Also my good mate at work, Everton fan, about 6 weeks ago was convinced that the only thing stopping them from winning the league this season would be Jordan Pickford. It was brilliant the way he was approaching it, like they were simply the best team going except for the GK position and had no other weaknesses
What biased mates, dads and colleagues have you people come across?? Not including anyone from this site, must be in real life.
The Biased Ones...
posted on 24/11/20
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
The fitness thing is a bit of a fallacy.
Not every player smoked, drank and ate pies.
Step forward Stanley Matthews, Duncan Edwards, Tony Dunne,Andy Cole, and many many others.
Standard of play is correct, better training, medics, pitches, tactics.
Individual talent, no. And when you think about it no reason a ten year old or indeed a twenty year old should have more natural talent now than then.
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on average fitness is much better now in the average footballer yes or no?
posted on 24/11/20
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
The fitness thing is a bit of a fallacy.
Not every player smoked, drank and ate pies.
Step forward Stanley Matthews, Duncan Edwards, Tony Dunne,Andy Cole, and many many others.
Standard of play is correct, better training, medics, pitches, tactics.
Individual talent, no. And when you think about it no reason a ten year old or indeed a twenty year old should have more natural talent now than then.
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on average fitness is much better now in the average footballer yes or no?
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Oh definitely. Far better on average, but here seems to be a mistaken belief that nobody was as fit in the past as they are now; Most weren't but quite a few were.
posted on 24/11/20
Individual talent, no. And when you think about it no reason a ten year old or indeed a twenty year old should have more natural talent now than then.
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Perhaps not, but I'm sure modern advancements in coaching etc mean that that talent can be brought out and developed far more nowadays.
posted on 24/11/20
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
The fitness thing is a bit of a fallacy.
Not every player smoked, drank and ate pies.
Step forward Stanley Matthews, Duncan Edwards, Tony Dunne,Andy Cole, and many many others.
Standard of play is correct, better training, medics, pitches, tactics.
Individual talent, no. And when you think about it no reason a ten year old or indeed a twenty year old should have more natural talent now than then.
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A soggy rock of a ball on a mud path pitch is pretty much a different sport to a modern ball on an artificial pitch. That's the difference in which 10 year olds made it back then and which make it now. The more talented kids get more of a chance, rather than just how large they can be as a kid, like back in the day.
posted on 24/11/20
I have posted before how current teams are far better than in the past. Faster, fitter generally, tactics backed up by computer assessments etc.
But I can confidently say that Law, Charlton and Best would have been stars now.
Two of them had talent, application, desire, and the knowledge of how best to use their talents.
One didn't, but he had the natural fitness and athleticism of youth, and a mountain of talent.
And they all played for us, and we won the European cup as a proof of their talent.
posted on 24/11/20
Oh, and none of the three were large.
posted on 24/11/20
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
The fitness thing is a bit of a fallacy.
Not every player smoked, drank and ate pies.
Step forward Stanley Matthews, Duncan Edwards, Tony Dunne,Andy Cole, and many many others.
Standard of play is correct, better training, medics, pitches, tactics.
Individual talent, no. And when you think about it no reason a ten year old or indeed a twenty year old should have more natural talent now than then.
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on average fitness is much better now in the average footballer yes or no?
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Oh definitely. Far better on average, but here seems to be a mistaken belief that nobody was as fit in the past as they are now; Most weren't but quite a few were.
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oh no its the balance, there were clearly some outstanding athletes some who probably had solid diets too and didnt smoke or drink. Everythings better equipped n focused on in regards to this so to be expected. Ontop of this, pitches the football and whats deemed a foul are very different. But it doesnt make the game worse its still on the whole much improved and of a better standard even if we dont agree with the soft refereeing/players etc.
Its ridiculous people say the games worse now than it ever was the games always improving as are the athletes who play it. Theres more goals more shots more distance covered more everything basically.
posted on 24/11/20
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 45 seconds ago
I have posted before how current teams are far better than in the past. Faster, fitter generally, tactics backed up by computer assessments etc.
But I can confidently say that Law, Charlton and Best would have been stars now.
Two of them had talent, application, desire, and the knowledge of how best to use their talents.
One didn't, but he had the natural fitness and athleticism of youth, and a mountain of talent.
And they all played for us, and we won the European cup as a proof of their talent.
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Against sheep farmers and milkmen. Ollie McBurnie > George Best, cos he's doing it in the modern day where the standard is much higher.
posted on 24/11/20
Look imo the ability to strike a ball or see a pass is timeless.
The standard of pitches, speed of game, science is hugesly different.
If you have a perfect surface to play on with every advantage in kit and training techniques etc of course the game is going to have players run further, harder and longer.
You can't assault each other now either.
no back pass, (another great biased comment btw)
I would agree with manu, of course talent is talent. not everyone one might be as elite as they had been but i would assume best for sure, and probably charlton.
It is the same as saying mo salah could never play in the 1960s. He's a strong lad, he grew up kicking a ball in his bare feet in sand and stones. Just cos he drops like a hot snot doesn't mean he wouldn't quickly change to battering players out of his way.
Another brilliant bias is about "rich kids" if you look at each teams squad there will be guys who would not have seen a street with jumpers for goal posts or whatever bias comment you like.
Firmino, keita, salah, mane, they are all coming form places where they have to be tough to get on.
IMO if you took souness say, he would be brilliant today. just wouldn't need to kick anyone. The kicking actually belies the athleticism, range of passing and shot like a cannon.
posted on 24/11/20
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 9 seconds ago
Look imo the ability to strike a ball or see a pass is timeless.
The standard of pitches, speed of game, science is hugesly different.
If you have a perfect surface to play on with every advantage in kit and training techniques etc of course the game is going to have players run further, harder and longer.
You can't assault each other now either.
no back pass, (another great biased comment btw)
I would agree with manu, of course talent is talent. not everyone one might be as elite as they had been but i would assume best for sure, and probably charlton.
It is the same as saying mo salah could never play in the 1960s. He's a strong lad, he grew up kicking a ball in his bare feet in sand and stones. Just cos he drops like a hot snot doesn't mean he wouldn't quickly change to battering players out of his way.
Another brilliant bias is about "rich kids" if you look at each teams squad there will be guys who would not have seen a street with jumpers for goal posts or whatever bias comment you like.
Firmino, keita, salah, mane, they are all coming form places where they have to be tough to get on.
IMO if you took souness say, he would be brilliant today. just wouldn't need to kick anyone. The kicking actually belies the athleticism, range of passing and shot like a cannon.
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Agree with that