Martial

Bamford

comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 19 seconds ago
Bamford


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laughable isn't it, 2 years older than martial, and has all of 8 PL goals to his name (which is fewer than greenwood, let alone the other two)

comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 19 seconds ago
Bamford


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laughable isn't it, 2 years older than martial, and has all of 8 PL goals to his name (which is fewer than greenwood, let alone the other two)
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And a far better CF

comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
He hasn't actually played as As a CF before Zlatan or Lukaku came in. He was playing LWF before and during their time. He has only played CF when he initially arrived for a few games before being shifted to the left and then last season.
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Why do you think that was?
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Rashford broke through in his first season here. Jose signed both Zlatan and Lukaku. He didn't rate Martial and dropped him for Sanchez.

Now, whether you rate him as a CF or not, what you wrote isn't true. It takes away from the argument you're trying to make.
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What did i write that wasn't true?
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Neither Zlatan and and Lukaku were instantly better than him as a CF as he hardly played as a CF before them. When Lukaku came in, he hadn't played as a cf for about a year and a half or something. When Zlatan came in, Rashford was being played at CF while Martial on the left. How can they be instantly better than someone who was not playing in the position they came into play?

comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
He hasn't actually played as As a CF before Zlatan or Lukaku came in. He was playing LWF before and during their time. He has only played CF when he initially arrived for a few games before being shifted to the left and then last season.
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Why do you think that was?
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Rashford broke through in his first season here. Jose signed both Zlatan and Lukaku. He didn't rate Martial and dropped him for Sanchez.

Now, whether you rate him as a CF or not, what you wrote isn't true. It takes away from the argument you're trying to make.
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What did i write that wasn't true?
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Neither Zlatan and and Lukaku were instantly better than him as a CF as he hardly played as a CF before them. When Lukaku came in, he hadn't played as a cf for about a year and a half or something. When Zlatan came in, Rashford was being played at CF while Martial on the left. How can they be instantly better than someone who was not playing in the position they came into play?
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They were all purchased to pay as CF instead of Martial, and all did better at CF then Martial ever has for us.

comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 13 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by CurrentlyStuckIntheUK (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
He hasn't actually played as As a CF before Zlatan or Lukaku came in. He was playing LWF before and during their time. He has only played CF when he initially arrived for a few games before being shifted to the left and then last season.
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Why do you think that was?
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Rashford broke through in his first season here. Jose signed both Zlatan and Lukaku. He didn't rate Martial and dropped him for Sanchez.

Now, whether you rate him as a CF or not, what you wrote isn't true. It takes away from the argument you're trying to make.
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What did i write that wasn't true?
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Neither Zlatan and and Lukaku were instantly better than him as a CF as he hardly played as a CF before them. When Lukaku came in, he hadn't played as a cf for about a year and a half or something. When Zlatan came in, Rashford was being played at CF while Martial on the left. How can they be instantly better than someone who was not playing in the position they came into play?
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They were all purchased to pay as CF instead of Martial, and all did better at CF then Martial ever has for us.
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No, they weren't. They were bought to play CF, not to play there instead of Martial.

Cavani was bought into add depth and competition. Zlatan was bought in to play as first choice CF instead of Rashford (who was the first choice at CF before Zlatan came). Lukaku was bought in to replace Zlatan. By that time both Rashford and Martial were playing on the left. Lukaku had also went couple of weeks without scoring in his first season and was gash in his second.

Martial was playing LWF before Zlatan arrived and also before Lukaku did. Even under Solskjaer when he was caretaker manager and then given the job permanently, Rashford was initially CF and Martial LWF. It was last season that he played CF since his first few appearances as a CF at United. He was better as a CF last season than Lukaku was in his last season with us. Lukaku was good in patches but overall didn't contribute enough to the side to play as a CF as we needed him and his all round game was poor.

Martial has been poor this season. He is inconsistent and may not be the solution there, but let's not rewrite history to try an make a point.

Why wasn’t Martial playing at CF ahead of Rashford, Ibra, Lukaku and how has Cavani instantly come in been better at CF?

comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 4 hours, 3 minutes ago
Why wasn’t Martial playing at CF ahead of Rashford, Ibra, Lukaku and how has Cavani instantly come in been better at CF?
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I already explained why. Cavani has had a very little game time. A bit too much hyperbole from you.

Come make actual points, then we can discuss it. Otherwise it would be me explaining things to you but you not understanding what I wrote and then asking me to explain again and after I have explained it you'll then ask for me to explain it again, but you won't understand what I wrote so then ask me to explain again and then after I have done so you'll ask for the same thing again and again.

The point has been made

Martial is not good enough to play CF for us and the fact that Rashford, Ibra, Lukaku and Cavani have been signed to play there ahead of him proves as much.

comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 2 hours, 35 minutes ago
The point has been made

Martial is not good enough to play CF for us and the fact that Rashford, Ibra, Lukaku and Cavani have been signed to play there ahead of him proves as much.
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Come make actual points, then we can discuss it. Otherwise it would be me explaining things to you but you not understanding what I wrote and then asking me to explain again and after I have explained it you'll then ask for me to explain it again, but you won't understand what I wrote so then ask me to explain again and then after I have done so you'll ask for the same thing again and again.