Have won
We always get the anyone could have won trophies with that barca side which Sir Alex called the best he had ever faced after losing the CL Final at Wembley. Here is the first team that started the final
GK- Víctor Valdés
RB-Dani Alves
CB-Javier Mascherano
CB- Gerard Piqué
LB- Eric Abidal
DM-Sergio Busquets
CM--Xavi (c)
CM--Andrés Iniesta
RF-David Villa
CF- Lionel Messi
LF- Pedro
Substitutes:
GK- Oier
DF-Carles Puyol
DF- Adriano
MF- Seydou Keita
MF- Ibrahim Afellay
MF- Thiago
FW- Bojan
This team only won 3 trophies and lost the Copa del Rey final
Lets see how many trophies you could have won with this squad.
1. Laliga = Jose was the manager of real and barca only won it by 4 points. No way I could win the league against Jose
2. CL = Had to play real in the semis and sir alex in the final at wembley. I wouldnt win this one aswell
3. Supercopa de España = one game against Sevilla . This iM definitely winning
So Im winning one trophy with that lot, what are you guys winning and by what margin would you have won these trophies?
Barca 2010-11, How many trophies would you
posted on 2/12/20
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
rosso
But wouldn't you say that for Barca and the way they operated it didn't need 11 world class players. Players such as Valdes and Pedro while very good players, worked because they understood the Barca way. That starting XI still had 6 wc players imo, United's '99 XI had 6 while our '08 had 5.
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Yep, absolutely this.
System, training and preparation, and, ultimately, manager.
posted on 2/12/20
comment by Des Kelly (U21846)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 14 minutes ago
rosso
But wouldn't you say that for Barca and the way they operated it didn't need 11 world class players. Players such as Valdes and Pedro while very good players, worked because they understood the Barca way. That starting XI still had 6 wc players imo, United's '99 XI had 6 while our '08 had 5.
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which system needs 11 world class playersGeorge Graham said you only need a couple and the rest bench carriers. Pretty much the same for all systems.
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I wouldn’t *quite* agree.
Although Pep didn’t need 8 world class players, he needed 11+ intelligent players who not only bought entirely into what he was doing, but were of a particular kind of technical ability.
There weren’t any real water carriers. They were all at least tactically savvy and technically proficient.
posted on 2/12/20
World class is a bit of a slippery concept though. A lot of those players were just ideally suited to the system, Valdés being a prime example. There may have been a number of 'better' keepers around, but could any of them have played the role at Barça as well as him? I'm not so sure.
So, if there's nobody who could do your job better than you, and your job is an essential part of a world-beating side, then could you not be considered world class in that role?
posted on 2/12/20
I reckon i'd probably have won the same a Pep.
posted on 2/12/20
Ioag
True, that’s why some overlook players like Valdes or Pedro even though they worked perfectly for the overall team/system.
But I also think that you can rate players individually on their attributes and while someone like Valdes worked perfectly for Barca there were other keepers who’s overall attributes where better which I would say makes them more ‘world class’ although I agree the term doesn’t mean that much.
posted on 2/12/20
comment by Bãles left boot (U22081)
posted 3 hours, 10 minutes ago
Two world wars and one world cup.
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America have won a World Cup?
posted on 2/12/20
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
Yeah, that Barca bench wasn't the best. For whatever reason that Barca side didn't seem to get many injuries and were able to play the same XI quite regularly...
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Pep got em on the steds ffs
posted on 2/12/20
i wooda won dem all.
posted on 2/12/20
Only won 3 trophies? How many were on offer? Including la liga and the CL
the team of 09 was the best, I was out there with my Spanish ex just outside of Barcelona and the night iniesta scored that screamer at Stamford Bridge was incredible
posted on 2/12/20
I would have won everything with them of course. Im a master tactician with 100% faith in my own opinion.